Meh. Lemmy is for them too, even if they are outnumbered.
Does…does it have to be?
I kinda want them here so they can be exposed to leftist ideas and become thigh-high wearing, Linux using furries.
But that’s probably just me huffing hopium
“I can fix them…” ~Common thought in an abusive relationship
It’s not going to work, at best they see themselves as a “missionary” whose purpose is to convert us from our “ways” and they’re not going to allow themselves to be converted.
Conservatives do change. Exposure is key. We’re where we are at because the rich have isolated us in echo-chambers. Speaking as a former conservative whose entire family across 3 generations shifted to the left. I caution your thinking they’re a lost cause.
It’s less about an abusive relationship and getting them therapy.
Depends. Do you believe in freedom of speech and freedom of opinion? Do you want the Fediverse to be an open, decentralized protocol?
Free and welcoming are two extremely different things. I want conservatives to be free to come to Lemmy, I do not want conservatives to be welcome to come to Lemmy.
fascists and their sympathizers (also fascists) should not feel comfortable in polite company. I am saying this very diplomatically.
I’ve never met a conservative that wasn’t a trash human if I dug deep enough.
Universally uninformed and hateful. Prerequisites for the ideology.
I was a conservative. I am not a trash human…um…I am also not remotely conservative anymore, so…hmmm. 🤔
I know conservatives that are alright. But they drank the koolaid…
I think a lot of them need an antidote more than exile. But it’s hard to find it for them…
They could be allies still.
How?
Find common ground. Most are gonna be laborers
Not sure I can find common ground with individuals who support felon rapists who illegally attempted to nullify 83 million American’s votes and is attempting to dissolve our federal government.
Some would call those individuals traitors.
Unpopular opinion, but I don’t really mind them, for now. They are not that imposing and I like to see the other viewpoint occasionaly, as I don’t use other social networks. Makes me feel like I’m in less of a bubble here.
I’m okay with downvotes.
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Sorry, I meant they are not imposing here, on Lemmy. They are a minilority that often gets downvoted.
Also I try to not look at the US. It’s always extreme, like watching a bad reality show.
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Iamragesparkle’s barkeep story about Nazi’s was right.
I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues.
"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.
And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.
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How fucking hard would it be to spin up a Lemmy instance, you know? Conservatives too fucking stupid to buy hosting and run an install package lol
iirc there used to be a far right instance on Lemmy displaying Nazi imagery and shit, but they got defederated by almost everyone else and they’re either banned in Germany now or the instance is dead
I think that’s ExplodingHeads, they shutdown, now HilariousChaos is the newer friendlier ExplodingHeads even though they won’t admit it
Its good to have differing perspectives. Your not always gonna get it right.
We should murder and eat children.
People have been doing that for millennia
I think you guys need to define what is the species of the “juveniles” in question
