Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.
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Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.
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The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.
Just for the record, I hate America and I think you should too.
I can hardly believe that we have devolved so far, so quickly. We are literally one step away from becoming an authoritarian dictatorship. The plan is this:
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Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) immigrants. These immigrants will mostly be legitimately illegal and gang associated criminals, but there will be a few individuals with legal standing and no criminal records. This could simply be the result of denying due process, or it could be an intentional test. The important factor is that 5th Amendment Due process rights are denied to all of them. The fact that these people (but be sure to de-humanize them as much as possible) are immigrants will be the distracting factor. <---- We are here
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Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) criminals. These will be legitimate criminals with legitimately horrible records; that will be the distracting issue that will be made the focus of the argument: “They are serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, we don’t want them here, so we should get rid of them.” This has already been announced as the plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfrwWz-m5I . That is not the point! The point is that they are still U.S. citizens, despite their crimes. The significance of this is that it will be the final barrier that needs to be broken, and the final protection that must be dismantled for the final solution to be enacted. If no one steps up and successfully defends the constitutional rights of these American citizens, then all the pieces will be in place for step 3.
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Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) political dissidents, rivals, business opponents, and maybe just anyone the administration doesn’t like. If they are political dissidents they will claim that they have committed crimes like, “hate speech against America™”, if they are a minority, they will be “associated with gangs”, if they are business rivals it will have committed “economic terrorism”, or something like that. It doesn’t really matter because they eliminated due process in step 1 (remember that was the important factor, not the immigrant dis-tractor), and without due process they don’t have to prove any crimes. Our last defense would have been the simple fact that we are American Citizens, but we established that doesn’t matter in step 2 because they were “bad people”, but now the “bad people” are whoever the administration decides is bad.
The context of the 5th amendment is important to understand its intent:
Historically, the Fifth Amendment draws significant influence from English common law. The grand jury clause specifically dates back to the Magna Carta, and was designed to protect accused persons from prosecution by the English royalty. In keeping with that intention, the Constitution’s framers opted to adapt the grand jury to the Constitution, so as to protect citizens from prosecution by the federal government.
Reagan LibraryEven in a Monarchy, which is not the form of government we are supposed to have, the Magna Carta offered protections against the King from prosecuting commoners, which is the origin of this amendment. We aren’t just devolving to pre-revolution America, which had enough disagreements with the rule of King George III that it sparked a war…no we are devolving to a pre-Magna Carta England type of Government. We are descending into middle-age feudalism with complete authoritarian rule… and we aren’t fortunate enough to have a dictator like Alfred the Great.
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He’s been in office 3 months. Please kill me, make it quick
america means freedom and diversity and immigrants. the trump administration hates america
Put Trump and his family on the first boat then…
I love America… I fucking hate Trump, MAGA and the GOP.
Make America Free Again!!!
America gave you Trump, MAGA and the GOP.
But in his mind “Trump = America”
As we all know, a person defines themselves through their actions. So does a country.
Imho, saying Trump(ism) isn’t America is like people who do evil, but still think they are good people. Admitting you have a problem is the first step in getting better. You need to hate what America has become. Shifting the blame to the current administration just lets people feel good about themselves. They shouldn’t. There is work to do.
The second step is meeting up with others in your community already working to fix it.
“Ope, looks like this guy hates America. Take him away boys.”
Why do Americans still talk about the constitution like it means something or is still relevant?
Your constitution is GONE. It’s a historical artifact. It has no meaning in today’s America.
All that matters now is the whim of the emotional toddler in the White House. Get used to it. He’s not going until he’s dead.
Does that mean they can deport Trump?
Hello…? ACLU? Journalists? Lawyers?Congresspeople? Senators? It’s the 1st Amendment. The very first one! They should be suing this administration and blasting this out every single day. And we all should be calling our representatives every day, marching, and protesting. To start. Our democracy and country is being strangled, and the silence is deafening.
Start talking about how you love it when Americans are good to each other, and when they want each other to have things like healthcare.
it’s just yo scare you into complacency, you can say anything in a speech
My gut wants to say that this is maybe intended to distract us from keeping focus on the embarrassments of the Signal debacle and the tanking economy. But my gut also tells me that we can have multiple awful things piling up on each other.
Way worse stuff going on. Elon is pilfering data and firing people ever day. Election laws are changing. Lawyers are getin sued into compliance with Maga policies.
Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.
Oh good, you’re finally awake. Let’s get you caught up on the last six months.
His first term was a shitshow.
For us, yes. For Republicans, no. In Trump’s first term:
He stacked the Supreme Court in his favor (2 of the 3 he appointed helped steal the 2000 election for Bush)
He appointed a record number of federal judges (260, most of which come from the Federalist Society)
He reversed a CFPB rule that made it easier to file class action lawsuits against banks for fucking us over
He oversaw more federal executions of prisoners than any president in 120 years
He cut corporate tax rates from 35% to 21%, the lowest rate since 1939
He pulled the US out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and our spot was filled by ChinaThere is so much more that he got done which set the stage for what is happening now. For example, he tried to pass about two thirds of the Heritage Foundation’s ‘Mandate for Leadership’ policies in his first term, which is what inspired them to write ‘Project 2025’, another iteration of the Mandate on steroids.
The fact that Trump lost the election in 2020 is a total fluke, and it took a global pandemic that killed over a million Americans to make him lose.
His first term was far from a shit show in terms of making the current shit show possible.
“He stacked the Supreme Court in his favor (2 of the 3 he appointed helped steal the 2000 election for Bush)”
Fucking, what!?
Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh worked on the legal team for Bush in 2000, helping swing the case after the Brooks Brothers Riot.
Yeah, no, this term there’s a lot less kayfabe, a lot more actual speedrunning tyranny. Not to say that they weren’t angling at tyranny before, but it’s clear they learned their lessons and came back with a plan.
Project 2025 laid all this out, but apparently he knew nothing about it
Or at least concepts of a plan
Nah, dude. Trump sounds like a fucking idiot, but he’s got a team of actual super villains working right underneath him.
I agree. I was just making reference to that quote of his from the debate or whatever.
Come get me asshole! I’ve hated this place since cancers like you were allowed to infect our politics.
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No. Born here, raised here, belong here. Troll elsewhere.
Man, you responded pretty quick. I appreciate that.
Is there a point you’re trying to make here? If I don’t like your little troglodyte of a “president” I should leave?
I’m a patriot. Why would abandon my country?
That was a pretty prompt edit as well lol 😅😅
I don’t like him either. I also didn’t like your troglodyte of a “presidential candidate” as well.
Perhaps we will have better choices in 2028?
Your comment history proves otherwise, troll.
My troll comments and what I actually believe in are two different things. Perhaps I should have used my other account to appeal to your patriotism.
No, just glad to meet a fellow prompt American
There is no commonality here. You defend a Nazi and a criminal.
We’d prefer you would leave, since you’re part of the problem with our country.
You don’t even know what the problems are. But nah, I would rather the citizens be united against the government and not against each other. Born here, raised here, served here. However, may I say fuck Bush Jr?
You may hate Trump, but I don’t hate my fellow citizens. I actually respect your opinions.
I do not need you to respect my opinions.
I need you to respect our fellow citizens by not making deriding comments for them to leave like you did.
You get the fuck out. I am Canadian even, and I am telling you to GTFO. It is people like you who are fucking everything up.
You don’t even know me, and as an American, just ship us your maple syrup and we will vote out the bad orange man.
I genuinely can’t imagine how empty your life would have to be to sign up to lemmy and spend your tragically finite time on this earth “”“trolling”“” people.
Go to twitter, make some like minded freinds, maybe pickup a hobby or something dude.
Well they have abandoned the Constitution
Why would they care?
See, this is why I hate America.
