I wear a cheese hat

Your arguments are invalid

I don’t doubt that, I just forgot that lemmy is like 80% american and you guys don’t have any social security over there lmao.

LGBT

X to doubt

Why even go visit the US? There’s nothing worthwhile to visit. And fatty american food I can get in almost any country

Oh, don’t get me wrong - I’m not saying that everyone deported from the US is a gang member. That wasn’t my intent, and if that is what you understood, I wasn’t clear enough, sorry. I have very little doubt that trump was infact abusing this situation.

My argumentation is solely in favor of bukele who’s trying to knock down the criminal gangs that have been effectively ruling el salvador for years. Many people have complained about bukele being an “evil dictator” and shit like that and I’m just kinda fed up with that stupid narrative.

They were deported from America you absolute bafoon.

Every single gang member was deported from america? Absolutely, makes a lot of sense. 100 points for gryffindor. El Salvador had 0 crime before trump happened.

I don’t even know what to tell you. You’re in denial beyond imagination, not knowing shit about the country you’re trying to judge.

Go fix your own country first. You got a lot of fixing to do.

I don’t think cheetoh’s exist here, pretty sure they’re banned because they contain some stuff considered toxic here idk.

I work with ex gang members

You don’t. At least not in el salvador.

Prove an actual crime

I know this might be a hard concept for you to grasp, but I can’t just fly to el salvador now and check the crime history of every single person in jail right now.

goddamn constitution and bill of rights demand

Of course you’re an american LMAO.

Unlike you, I’ve been in el salvador in 2016 because my (Ex) girlfriends family lives there. I’ve seen first hand how fucked up the country is and I’ve talked to the people there. I’ve paid roughly 900€ (in dollar tho) to people who wanted to rob me in the streets. During my 1 week stay, I’ve seen 3 people getting shot. That’s 75% of all people I’ve seen getting shot.

You fucking americans know NOTHING about the world outside of america. You just assume everything is the same as in your fucking country and apply your moral standards while never being anywhere near that country. You don’t put any effort into learning about the situation and thinking about: “Hmm what could be done about it?”. Seriously, what would you do to fix a country with over 100 homicides per 100.000 people? What would you do to fix a country where your children, parents or friends are more likely to get shot than in any other country on this planet? Good luck talking with criminals that ran your country for over a decade. Surely that will go well.

Honestly I hope trump runs your fucking country into the ground and just takes you off the internet like north korea so I don’t have to endure your sleezy, naive and clueless bullshit anymore. You morons make me sick.

Yes, if you go on with that drastic measures, you are bound to hit innocent people aswell - just as ukraine is bound to kill innocent civilians by bombing russian infrastructure, despite all their attempts to mitigate those.

I don’t think you guys understand the severity of the situation that has been cooking down there.

“Everyone that disagrees with me is a nazi” you know, come back once you got any kind of argument, okay? And stop embarrass yourself on topics you know jack shit about.

Having been in a gang ≠ in a gang

Shows how little you know about el salvador. People who have gang tattoos are either in a gang or dead. A criminal gang is not a club you can leave whenever you feel like it. Hell, even here in the west, people who try to leave the banditos or the hells angel often end up dead, and you think in el salvador, the (at that point) most murderous country in the world, they can just quit?

provide evidence of an actual crime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_El_Salvador

The thing is, I’m as libertarian as you can get in the west. However, unlike most of you drones, I do recognize that at some point, being a civilized human stops working. Do you really think you can “reason” with criminal gangs that have been controlling your country for over a decade? Are you also one of those clowns that keep crying “No no no do not send ukraine weapons, you just have to TALK with putin!!!111 :(((((((((”?

Is the situation down there good? Absolutely not. Are a lot of innocent people being caught in the crossfire? Absolutely.

I’m not in favor of that at all, but I do recognize it’s the only way. Just like an infection that has progressed too long untreated, the only option is amputation of the affected limb. And el salvador had previous governments fail on every possible level.

And the people of el salvador probably are happy they can leave their houses again without being shot. Bukele has incredibly high approval ratings, often above 90%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_the_Nayib_Bukele_presidency

“Accused without proof” excuse me what they literally have the gang signs tattoo’d on their skin. Are we gonna pretend that people get tattoos of criminal gangs but are actually not part of it?

Jesus christ el salvador was one oft the deadliest countries in the world. People were going to work in the morning and there was a big chance of not getting home alive. The population celebrates bukele, as the country plunged from like 40 homicides per 100.000 people in 2019 to 1.9 per 100.000 people.

I am well aware. The part in brackets only referred to switzerland.

I quite obviously wasn’t talking about the country.

Unless you’re living in austria or switzerland (which technically isn’t europe but lets roll with it), you will never have trains on time.

Me getting my monthly disability check after beging diagnosed with “TDS”:

I’m just glad I never had to put up with corpo shit like that. I only work for smaller businesses with like at max 20 people. Pay is usually a bit worse at the start, but it’s easier to ask for raises down the line and at least I’m treated like a human, not a number in lexware.

Ah, ye that makes sense. Kinda forgot about that aswell. Thanks for pointing it out!

The high price of eggs is in no way President Trump’s fault

To be fair - that is true. It’s not like he infected all the birds.

However, if you’re the president that just slapped a bunch of tariffs on neighboring countries … optics looking kinda bad ngl.

To be honest, I’ve had this discussion countless times at this point and I’m just tired of discussing it, especially with americans. It’s a fruitless endeavor.