Summary
New Secretary of State Marco Rubio froze most foreign aid grants for three months, reportedly shocking State Department officials.
The freeze affects military aid to Ukraine, Jordan, and Taiwan, while exempting aid to Egypt and Israel.
Staff were instructed to halt nearly all existing foreign assistance programs immediately.
The move aligns with Trump’s pledge to negotiate an end to the Russia-Ukraine war, as Russia gains ground in the conflict.
Rubio’s decision has raised concerns about the broader implications for U.S. foreign policy and global alliances.
I was told the genocide was going to stop.
No you weren’t.
Really?
I wasn’t told that voting against Harris or not voting was going to end the Palestine genocide!?
No, no you weren’t. You were explicitly told that allowing and encouraging genocide would end the Harris/Biden campaign; and that America actively participating in genocide would cause the genocide to spread domestically; and that Dems refusing to differentiate themselves on this topic would disincentive voters.
You were not told, at any point, genocide would end with a trump admin. I get liberals tend to have that thing all right wingers have with their memory where you rewrite history to match your current beliefs, but you gotta try harder when you’re not in a right wing echo chamber like reddit or x.
America is still participating. Who’s the president ?
Reread, try again.
I’ll admit my leading question was facetious.
My point is that an action was taken against democrats on the topic of Gaza, and yet, the crisis and genocide continue. It was obvious this would happen if trump won, plus a slew of other impacts on at risk people around the world, beyond the admittedly unsatisfactory status quo of the Biden admin. So what societal good was done by not helping keep trump out?
There are two possibilities, either we cost her the election or we didn’t. If we didn’t, we worked towards building an actual alternative party at zero cost. If we did, then it’s even better, because we demonstrated that our support is needed to win.
The Democratic party, particularly the version of it that you believe in enabling, is both fundamentally unacceptable and doomed to failure. The Democrats have chosen to be the party of the status quo, and the status quo is declining and will continue to decline and unless and until they embrace change and an actual vision of the future, they are going to fail. Even if it were possible to “buy time,” that’s not a valid goal, because time is against us, every minute that passes is a minute where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the environment is damaged, and the right grows stronger. Only a fundamental shift in the political sphere and the proliferation of leftist narratives and explanations for the decline can possibly stem the fascist tide.
The Democrats can either change into what they need to be or they can be replaced, these are the only two paths forward where I don’t end up in a camp. Voting third party furthers both of those goals, while unconditional loyalty to the party only encourages them to continue on a doomed path.
You hope to bring about a new party with zero plan candidate or substance and in turn got additional people hurt.
Accelerationists are dreaming of a survivor fantasy where their perceived position or privledge will keep them or their family alive through the downfall, transition, and reconstruction of what’s next. Who’s to say what’s next isn’t 10x worse? You can’t.
Not caring about buying time is a privileged position, one that for example afghan refugees who had flights to the US this week and beyond sure would like a bit more of. Oh, whoops, the democrats needed to be taught a lesson so I guess it’s ok that they are abandoned now.
It’s all good and well to talk theory, but in real life harm reduction is actually helping people.
If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
I have to say it so often it’s in my profile. I don’t believe I’ve ever been wrong.
I’m not going to provide a link, because half of the tankieverse was saying anyone voting Harris is voting genocide and you fucking know it. I of course was banned from the hexbear memes community of all places for suggesting that Trump IS going to be worse and that they all know it but don’t care because Trump is the more authoritarian, more pro-Putin choice.
Moving the goalposts. You don’t need to show that someone said, “Voting Harris is voting genocide” you need to find me someone who said, “If Trump wins, the genocide will stop,” which is the claim that was actually made by the person I replied to. Please refrain from that sort of rhetorical trickery.
Rhetorical trickery or hyperbole?
Anyway, okay, I’ll move the goalposts exactly to where they should be set:
There may or may not have been individuals claiming Trump’s better. I know there were, but nobody’s going to pay me what my time’s worth to look up 3 month old posts. So let’s say there weren’t. But there were a LOT of people saying that voting for Harris = voting for genocide, which in a two party system implies that you SHOULDN’T vote for Harris, which is functionally the same as voting for Trump.
There were a lot of people using the whole genocide thing to help Trump win the election, they just weren’t mostly claiming Trump would stop it, they sorta… implied it very indirectly.
Hyperbole is a form or rhetorical trickery.
Nothing else you said is relevant. I commented to point out a lie, or “hyperbole” if you want to call it that. If you want to debate something unrelated to that “hyperbole,” bring it up somewhere where it doesn’t serve as a deflection from a legitimate call-out.
If you take this position of, “Using hyperbole to exaggerate the other side’s position to make it easier to attack is perfectly fine,” it doesn’t exactly give me confidence that you’re going to engage in anything resembling good faith. This sort of attitude is unfortunately pervasive around here, which is why I have to use that first line so frequently.