• Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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    No they can’t not be obtuse, during the election this user and disguyovahere both were going on and on about how the left is the problem for criticizing the dems for their innmuerable terrible decisions that got us here. But no, it’s the voters fault, many of us whom have grittered their teeth and voted Dem for years as they continued to be ineffectual and handed our country to the fucking fascists

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      13 hours ago

      voted Dem for years as they continued to be ineffectual and handed our country to the fucking fascists

      1. If you bothered to actually pay attention and do things like look up the voting history of both parties. Bills that they’ve passed. Then you’d be aware that the Democrat party is NOWHERE NEAR as ineffectual as the Republican party. To call Dems ineffectual when we’re in the midst of what we’re in right now, when mere months ago we had stability, professionalism, and a strong economy under the Dems, is simply disingenuous.

      2. No one but American voters handed our country to fucking fascists. It’s up to American voters to responsibly inform themselves and vote responsibly. Blaming Dems for the failure of American voters is also disingenuous.

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        1. I’m certainly no republican lmfao but to say America was stable and great under Biden is a bit silly, obviously it’s not the same level as now because Trump is a lunatic, you’re just comparing Republicans vs Democrats, whereas I’m specifically saying the democrats already don’t do nearly enough.

        2. I mean, more stayed home then voted as per usual, they were literally going against Trump and managed to lose. Do you wonder why they aren’t winning over voters? It’s because they aren’t doing enough to move the needle in a positive direction, so people become disillusioned, we need a strong progressive leader like Bernie who is more willing to fight against the established ghouls in the democratic party who are just as corrupt as the Republicans.

        I don’t know what more I can say then we can have better if the democrats actually wanted to fight for the things they campaigned on instead of a majority of them doing the bare minimum to stay elected and keep getting that lobbyist cash.