Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less “authoritarian” than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don’t get the power to exploit people.
Meanwhile a primitive anarchist commune with so little development of the means of production, a person’s only options are to fill a very specific role in society or starve becomes free again.
The term “authoritarian” is not useful for describing how much agency people in a society have over their own lives.
Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less “authoritarian” than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don’t get the power to exploit people.
I’ve never heard anyone argue that before, and it’s not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up?
Vast government structures that encompass the lives of hundreds of millions of people can’t be put on a single page. We shouldn’t focus on political identity. We should focus on what works.
Are you saying it’s better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that’s all I’m comparing. I’m not saying the political compass is perfect, I’m saying it’s better than “left VS right.”
Which is unfortunate, because using 2 dimensions to describe political ideology is much more informative than using just one (left VS right).
Not really, because somehow a libertarian society where you can own slaves is less “authoritarian” than a socialist society where everyone is fed, housed, because the poor capitalists don’t get the power to exploit people.
Meanwhile a primitive anarchist commune with so little development of the means of production, a person’s only options are to fill a very specific role in society or starve becomes free again.
The term “authoritarian” is not useful for describing how much agency people in a society have over their own lives.
I’ve never heard anyone argue that before, and it’s not shown on the compass itself. Do you have any evidence to back that up?
Vast government structures that encompass the lives of hundreds of millions of people can’t be put on a single page. We shouldn’t focus on political identity. We should focus on what works.
Are you saying it’s better to use one dimension to describe political ideology than 2 dimensions? Because that’s all I’m comparing. I’m not saying the political compass is perfect, I’m saying it’s better than “left VS right.”
I’m saying human systems and the ideas surrounding them can’t be quantified by a single graph.
I didn’t say they could be. But graphs can be helpful in understanding certain aspects of those systems/ideas.
I suppose my nitpick is that it simplifies things so much that it obfuscates what we’re actually discussing a lot of the time.
It becomes an argument of this vs that instead of what do we have to do to achieve common shared goals.
I disagree, I think having a common frame of reference is useful in discussing opposing viewpoints.