• RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    Gun control legislation should be one of the lowest priorities during a time of constitutional crisis with fascists tearing down the government.

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    Trump is a fascist!

    Resist!

    Also, don’t you dare fight back. Only Trump and his goons should own a gun.

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    Sheriffs will have broad authority to deny applications from people seeking to buy otherwise banned firearms, including those they believe may be a risk to themselves or others. Those who are rejected, however, could file a lawsuit seeking to reverse the decision.

    Once someone gets an eligibility card, they must complete up to a dozen hours of training over two days, depending on whether they have already completed a hunter education course, and pass a test. At that point they would be allowed to purchase a weapon otherwise banned under Senate Bill 3.

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      Having not read the article: probably. The magazine tube should still be fine as long as it’s a pump action shotgun because firing another round requires manually cycling the action.

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      https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2025A/bills/2025a_003_enr.pdf

      Seems that is ok, time to Rube Goldberg a giant magazine tube.

      A FIREARM THAT HAS A PERMANENTLY FIXED MAGAZINE THAT CANNOT ACCEPT MORE THAN FIFTEEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION , INCLUDING A SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM THAT HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO HAVE A PERMANENTLY FIXED MAGAZINE THAT CANNOT ACCEPT MORE THAN FIFTEEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;

      What seems really dubious is their “Gas-operated vs not” section for handguns.

      Banned:

      © "GAS - OPERATED SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUN " MEANS ANY SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUN THAT HARNESSES OR TRAPS A PORTION OF THE HIGH- PRESSURE GAS FROM A FIRED CARTRIDGE TO CYCLE THE ACTION USING ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

      Not banned:

      A SINGLE OR DOUBLE ACTION SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUN THAT USES RECOIL TO CYCLE THE ACTION OF THE HANDGUN ;

      Seems it would be incredibly easy for them to go, “oh yeah, none of them use recoil,” as recoil is a late phase created by the gas discharge on every semiauto. Gas discharge blows the slide back (gas operated), then casing is ejected, spring pulls slide forward while another spring pushes the next round in place. The whole principle of all firearms is to use the exploding gas to make a bullet go one way, and gun parts go another, which would limit pistols to revolvers.

      Colorado already lost Magpul and other sources of revenue to the last attempt at this, and it did nothing to stop shootings.

      The timing is just the ass end of asinine too. Colorado is supposed to be a bastion of freedom in the middle of a sea of backwards red states, instead we’re speed-running authoritarianism as fast as we can while the nation collapses into Fascism.

      Doesn’t help that Polis has no spine, even though as a gay Jewish man with a family, one would think he should be at the forefront of not letting history repeat.

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      You can still get them if you have the finances to take a couple days off work, are white enough for your county sheriff, and can pay for a permit that allows you to take a safety class that you also pay for.

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    Would have upvoted this post except for the non-news opinions in the body:

    Do something about gun violence!

    (Finally does something about gun violence)

    How dare you??

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      How does requiring a permit to take a class to apply for a modern gun (who’s system must be funded by an already underfunded wildlife agency) going to stop someone from stealing a gun? How does it prevent someone from walking into a movie theater and shooting up the place? How does banning the guns least likely to be used in crime, prevent crime?

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        Putting the certification courses on the back of CPW will also remove funding from the “Parks and Wildlife” part of CPW, which is arguably more important given how often Colorado is a tinderbox these days, and we want our CPW folks managing the parks and wildlife.

        Polis said on some TV blurb that they’ll make a money program for those too poor to afford the classes to not make this a tax on the poors, and that they’d hope to cap the classes at “under” $200 to keep them affordable. To add an extra layer of complexity on a layer of complexity.

        Training is good, full stop. However, they could have chosen a different tack, this all seems rushed and ill-thought-out.

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        Taking a class reinforces the lesson that guns are not toys and need to be stored appropriately and safely. That will help prevent theft and also the biggest group for accidental gun deaths is toddlers because people don’t view their gun as deadly. The permits can also be used in conjunction with removing guns from people who are violent.

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          You’re not allowed to take the class unless you get the permit first. Your county sheriff can deny your permit for any reason they deem fit. And you still have to pay a nonrefundable application fee for the permit. All this law does is make lawful gun ownership more expensive than illegal gun ownership. How will that prevent crime? It sounds more like a great way to keep modern firearms out of a particular population that is historically on the lower end of socioeconomic class Kinda like how you had to pay a tax to vote. A tax that was a little too expensive for people of a certain socioeconomic class.

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            That’s like saying a forcing people to get a license to drive only encourages people to drive without one. Most people follow the law especially if the fee is small. The concealed permit is $50 so it’s definitely not going to be higher than that. Renewal is $13. That’s not exactly breaking the bank. And if that is too high for some, maybe have your local John Brown Gun Club subsidize the cost for people who can’t afford it.

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              New ccw $50 + whatever your county charges. Total is usually over $100. That’s just to apply. You also have to pay for a class, which is usually around $200. Total for new ccw: about $300

              Total for renewal: about $250

              License for modern gun: unknown so far.

              Regardless, this still gonna put the cost of lawful gun ownership out of reach for quite a few people. And for clarity’s sake, those people tend to not be white.

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                Starting in July, CCW training laws are changing, including requiring re-training for all renewals. That seems a bit different, most licenses in the US like car, ham radio, etc. don’t require re-training.