• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    2 days ago

    Would have upvoted this post except for the non-news opinions in the body:

    Do something about gun violence!

    (Finally does something about gun violence)

    How dare you??

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      How does requiring a permit to take a class to apply for a modern gun (who’s system must be funded by an already underfunded wildlife agency) going to stop someone from stealing a gun? How does it prevent someone from walking into a movie theater and shooting up the place? How does banning the guns least likely to be used in crime, prevent crime?

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        Putting the certification courses on the back of CPW will also remove funding from the “Parks and Wildlife” part of CPW, which is arguably more important given how often Colorado is a tinderbox these days, and we want our CPW folks managing the parks and wildlife.

        Polis said on some TV blurb that they’ll make a money program for those too poor to afford the classes to not make this a tax on the poors, and that they’d hope to cap the classes at “under” $200 to keep them affordable. To add an extra layer of complexity on a layer of complexity.

        Training is good, full stop. However, they could have chosen a different tack, this all seems rushed and ill-thought-out.

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        Taking a class reinforces the lesson that guns are not toys and need to be stored appropriately and safely. That will help prevent theft and also the biggest group for accidental gun deaths is toddlers because people don’t view their gun as deadly. The permits can also be used in conjunction with removing guns from people who are violent.

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          You’re not allowed to take the class unless you get the permit first. Your county sheriff can deny your permit for any reason they deem fit. And you still have to pay a nonrefundable application fee for the permit. All this law does is make lawful gun ownership more expensive than illegal gun ownership. How will that prevent crime? It sounds more like a great way to keep modern firearms out of a particular population that is historically on the lower end of socioeconomic class Kinda like how you had to pay a tax to vote. A tax that was a little too expensive for people of a certain socioeconomic class.

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            That’s like saying a forcing people to get a license to drive only encourages people to drive without one. Most people follow the law especially if the fee is small. The concealed permit is $50 so it’s definitely not going to be higher than that. Renewal is $13. That’s not exactly breaking the bank. And if that is too high for some, maybe have your local John Brown Gun Club subsidize the cost for people who can’t afford it.

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              New ccw $50 + whatever your county charges. Total is usually over $100. That’s just to apply. You also have to pay for a class, which is usually around $200. Total for new ccw: about $300

              Total for renewal: about $250

              License for modern gun: unknown so far.

              Regardless, this still gonna put the cost of lawful gun ownership out of reach for quite a few people. And for clarity’s sake, those people tend to not be white.

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                Starting in July, CCW training laws are changing, including requiring re-training for all renewals. That seems a bit different, most licenses in the US like car, ham radio, etc. don’t require re-training.