• NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    I don’t disagree with you at all.

    I’m just pointing out that when the neoliberals slow walk us toward a dystopia, nobody seems to complain or people even come out in defense of them. Trump and his republicans followers are evil morons, but all of the democrats in that list had a hand in bringing us to where we are now.

    Trump is a clumsy frog boiler, but that doesn’t mean we haven’t been in this pot for decades at least.

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      11 hours ago

      Yea i love it. why take 20 years to maybe improve incrementally, when we can self destruct in months and you can get some wicked internet points before the hunger games begin.

      I wasn’t a big fan of our trajectory either. I’m so thankful we could just speed up the process and have all the results at once. No time to fix anything when you’re drooling over everything burning down. You’re right this is all good. I’m looking forward to a world of insecurity where only the strong survive. Are you? Or are you just hoping that out of the choas some kind of order will magically appear that was better than before?

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        10 hours ago

        Nowhere in any of my posts did I say this was good or that I appreciate it. Are you responding to the right person?

        This is a shit situation, but you’re doing yourself a disservice thinking that this only started with Trump.

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          7 hours ago

          Your OP comment stated that the Democrats would’ve had us here in 20-50 years. Which is a crazy statement considering there will be two entire generations that haven’t been born voting in 50 years.

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            6 hours ago

            We’ve been ratcheting farther and farther to the right for nearly fifty years. I’m not claiming to be a fortune teller, but this is the direction that both parties have been pushing us (one faster and one slower, but both in the same direction).

            Neither of them is on your side. One is definitely playing the bad guy and lesser-of-two-evils can get us out of a disaster a couple of times, but they’re both taking us to the same place in the end.

            [ed: To be clear, I don’t think there’s actually a unified conspiracy between the parties. Only that a group of likeminded individuals acting in their own self interest is indistinguishable from a conspiracy. The christofascist stuff is unique to one side, but what each of them has in mind both look like a dystopia for us.]

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      10 hours ago

      I disagree that they were nazis or nazi adjacent.

      They were the fount of the nazis evil, far worse, more cruel, more vicious, and not done out of greed but merely out of a lust to torture.

      You had the relationship reversed.