I, for one, support Musk and Trump using their respective cudgels of capital and government to beat one another bloody.

If we’re going to burn, and it looks like we absolutely will, why not have a little entertainment?

We never left might makes right, we just dressed it up all pretty. I was referring the the equality of extinction.

Lol, in the end capitalism will bring social equality 💀

Guess the capitalists were filthy commies all along.

Them lazy socialists will use any excuse to avoid work!

“boo hoo we’re tired! We’re starving! Our lungs burn when we breathe! This is a recorded message, We’ve gone extinct!”

No one wants to work anymore…

I think you’re confusing misanthropy based on the data with eco-fascism. Eco-fascists want to destroy heavy industry attempting to save humanity from itself. I’m saying we aren’t worth saving, and the earth doesn’t need saving from us because it has a mechanism to deal with us.

It isn’t advocating violence, and therefore isn’t fascism of any stripe, to acknowledge the reality that we are subject to our habitat, not the other way around. Our species has lost respect for the very ground beneath our feet, and we aren’t the first problematic mutation that altered the climate that the planet had to correct for. See the trees of the carboniferous period. We’re merely the first species that had the agency not to, but chose to anyway.

You might want to look at your biases if you think there’s a dirty accusation to be thrown for anything less than rah rah homosapiens! That’s just base tribalism.

Palestine was genocided by fascists, who won, and are winning elsewhere.

I think I’ve just switched sides, I’m on team climate change extinction. We inflict cruelty on all other life on this planet… And OURSELVES. Literally no one is happy, even the capitalists who are most responsible for human misery trying to fill the black hole in their chests with ever moar capital, even they can’t be made happy in victory as they’ll never have enough.

Earth needs to shake us off its back for the sake of terrestrial life. To put it in terms the rest of my species understands, we’re a liability to the larger organization, and bring no redeeming value to the planet. As such, we should be summarily terminated.

Look at all that “efficiency.”

I’ve yet to discover a conservative “Christian” that possesses even a passing familiarity with their own self proclaimed testaments.

Like seriously, you claim to take your belief seriously, it’s 1 fucking book! It’s not a page turner I grant them, but it’s ONE book.

At least we never went socialist.

That will provide me a lot of comfort when the Fascists brutally murder me and my family for our dissent. At least they weren’t filthy socialists that tried to feed, cloth, or house anyone without condition. What a nightmare hellscape that would have been.

Oh just like how the American private health insurer confidence scheme seeks the death penalty when their customers marks actually need life saving healthcare and become a threat to the capitalist’s quarterly metastasis expectations.

Neat.

When we have a side that rejects the corporate bribe take and has an overt agenda to fight the capitalist profiteers in defense of the people, sure.

Until we dig ourselves out by rejecting private profit/growth/metastasis at the expense of the people at the bottom of society, nothing can improve.

Since Reagan got his former opposition party on the take, all we’ve been voting on is the speed of decline as good cop(D) and bad cop® encourage us to hate one another and be divided over the social issue symptoms of the captured economy we don’t get a vote on.

I vote blue out of harm reduction. But democrats still don’t give a shit about mass murder for private profit, mass homelessness, income inequality, on and on. They affirm your identity instead of scapegoating you, which is nice, but is also free for their mutual donor’s quarterly profit expectations.

What good is being free to be who you are when you’re dying of exposure and police brutality under a freeway for failing to produce enough value for the owners?

If there’s another real presidential election, and if a democrat gets elected, we’ll get four years of relative quiet but the situation will continue to grow darker as the DNC will not allow the capital markets to be reigned in, which means even if we avert this fascist march, the table will still be set for them to continue their march in four years. Wall Street must end. And it will, by our hands, or capitalist made climate change in a couple decades when it no longer matters for our species.

If only Democrats were that cool, we wouldn’t be in this situation.

Fuck that, if I could wave a magic wand and suffocate a future President in their crib, it would be Ronnie, not Donnie.

Without what Reagan did to our culture, politics, and economy, we wouldnt have had a population ignorant enough to elect Trump once, let alone twice.

Turns out starving public education and allowing big corpo to call any self-serving lie “news” without regulation makes one nation under duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Without investing in education, a nation has only failure and collapse to look forward do.

Reagan/Welch destroyed the United States irrevocably.

Trump/Elon are just vultures picking its well rotted corpse clean.

Trump is a just big dumb animal who has been using his wealth to leverage confidence schemes his whole life, and used his instincts as a grifter to steal the Republican base from the old guard Republicans. He really doesn’t deserve as much credit as he gets. It was Reagan that furthered the Welch corpo vision of paying off both major parties, and convincing the peasants to vote against their own interests with the promise(aka lie to the suckers they see as less than human) of golden showers of prosperity into today. This was happening with or without Donnie. If anything we can see more of what’s going on than establishment, old money conservatives would have allowed because Trump is a big, dumb, loud animal.

This country wasn’t over as of last November. This country was over as of November 1979.

What is needed is mass acceptance of that, and for smaller nations to emerge. Let the Science/reason/empathy have some land and build a nation, and let hatred/bigotry/willful ignorance/religion have some land and build a nation.

I think we all know who’ll be eating and who’ll be declaring war on the smarties to steal their food in a decade or two.

This isn’t even a Trump thing, I’ll take the bus or buy a foreign made junker before I’d waste my money on an American car. They’re crap.

The only thing we export of any quality are the means of mass murder, and that’s something to be ashamed of.

You’re just satisfied with society abandoning its worst off as the visible reminder of what a shithole of a society we have. You have a lot of company since the owner class gutted public education to complete ruin over decades though.

There is no “or” though. There is no world where the homeless punches themselves in the face or hides themselves from your eyeline for your amusement because there’s no point in appeasing the legion of sociopaths for profit “news” media has made like you in exchange for nothing. They’d rather eat with that panhandling money, and they’re right, sorry.

Your capitalist enablers and sycophants will destroy you if you give them a centimeter, with a shit eating grin, even if they burn with you.

“YOU can live large… just fuck over your neighbors. I heard they hate you. Why don’t you hate them?”

Its pathetic how many millions have suffered and died, how many governments have betrayed their own people, to some derivation of the above.

The US resolutely chose die alone with the Reagan/Welch con job and it has doomed us. Please continue to choose live together. Vote for a society that supports one another from the worst off upward.

Because we glorify and often lie about what individuals can do, and literally villanize cooperation as somehow wrong and evil in western society.

You can’t build a skyscraper individually, yet we applaud the owners of them for their asset, when it took a collective of hundreds of laborers and engineers to build it who will never benefit from the fruits of it commensurate with they work put into the collective project. Which works for the sociopaths pushing individualism as they can create a collective through capital to accomplish what they want credit and profit from and then be dismissed, so they can propagate it’s their skyscraper that “they” built. cue Steve jobs coming out on stage to take credit for the new kind of phone HE implies having made without a drop of humility.

Then they use that as a cudgel to tell individuals without their greed disease, who don’t have the means to call on flash collective employees, that if they’re struggling they must be lazy or incompetent because the right people built skyscrapers all on their own by pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.

Toxic individualism is a virus. Anything worth anything our species has accomplished has been the work of many, but the self-serving sociopaths that control the means of production and propaganda and state violence want you to be hostile towards the concepts of a social contract, and social equity, and society being judged by how it’s most downtrodden are treated. It’s destroying us, and it’s murdered millions of neighbors we betrayed to die under freeways of exposure for the crime of not producing value for sociopaths, aka “pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.” Easy to say as a nepo baby on a mega yacht barking dictates at assistants.

I’m aware, that’s my Fandom, I know the lore intimately.

Being a “battery” is in the vernacular though, and most understand what a capital battery means.

I even see the Architects nod to the supposed answer requiring a “lesser mind” albeit a more human curious mind in the oracle was a nod to that original idea the studio mandated the Wachowskis change, from bioprocessors to batteries. Would have worked on so many levels, even with the machines falling victim to repetition loop breakdowns without processing from imperfect minds, but that was on the Studio, the writers were vocal they didn’t like the change, which makes it easy for me to look beyond.