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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • My current opinion is, a message can be good or bad regardless of the source. That can have exception when there’s hidden implication of support for evil deeds (ex. all lives matter). In this case, I can recognize the truth in this message that still resonates today and don’t see the implication of support for the entirety of Stalin’s actions. Also, bringing up the iron curtain is actual pretty ironic, given that was about isolationism and this comic is (at least on the surface) anti-isolationist.





  • They are irrelevant.

    They are inconvenient to your argument. This is you dismissing evidence in order to preserve a worldview. Practically the definition of being close minded.

    You don’t try to stop something you support.

    She didn’t try to stop it, that would require holding the aggressors accountable for their actions. If there’s no accountability, why wouldn’t they just pick up where they left off?

    Do you expect that Netanyahu would step down from power if we asked?

    Yes. If the USA, the world’s largest superpower and Israel’s biggest benefactor and arms dealer, were to demand he step down, I don’t think he would feel he had much choice. Maybe he’d try to start a war because of it, but it wouldn’t last very long. Assuming we actually had intention behind the demand.


  • Working for peace is the exact opposite of contributing to the conflict.

    I was actually trying to use a neutral phrase. Meaning that it would be possible to have a positive contribution to resolving the conflict. As I think I’ve made clear, I don’t believe it was positive overall because of a few factors I’ve tried to lay out. Can you say that you aren’t skipping over factors I’ve presented to come to your conclusion?

    Killing 4.4 to 5.3 million Nazis was part of that achievement. It was not achieved peacefully. Thankfully “Nazi” isn’t an ethnicity, but Israeli Jews are and ethnic group.

    That was the war that got us to the place where we were able to make demands of the state and hold them accountable for their actions. At the moment, it doesn’t seem like war is required to give the US that kind of sway over the state of Israel.





  • Can you think of a time a VP came out and directly contradicted their President’s foreign policy?

    Is that a good thing? Is that acceptable even when it includes standing by genocide? But when she’s running her own campaign seems an excellent time to distinguish herself from her predecessor. Especially when she got that spot because polling showed Biden couldn’t win. Even more when she’s specifically asked what she’d have done differently per my source from earlier.

    Yes, that is counterfactual. Stopping the war was always the ultimate goal. Pauses were just the compromise.

    1. The war will not stop as long as both exist. The past 75 years of conflict have shown that. The goal as stated was only ever going to end with pauses.

    2. That’s still compromising with and defending the genociders. This evergreen meme

    Also this quote feels relevant