They distinctly did under Obama and in the first two years of Biden. They just complained and fucked up

That’s still an absolutely wild statement to be honest. Only 60?

Can you please just fucking not

We need someone who is actually going to make some changes, not another return to a milque toast centre right 70 year old white dude

The fact that it is not mandatory should not even register with anyone with half a brain cell.

The US is just so stupidly backwards and going even further in that direction that it’s even an option to not vaccinate your kids.

All that’s going to happen is that this country will push out all the intelligent people who will want to leave for somewhere with some intelligence and the oligarchs will be left to rule over a blatantly stupid populace who force themselves into slavery

If all people did was post things online then there is no chance in hell anything would change.

Deflect deflect deflect deflect is all you so

You’re hopeless

Right now, it’s the same amount of genocide.

I’m sure if trump gets his way, a lot more people will be hurt in the states as well.

You are asking thousands of people in the US to walk over their families and relatives dead bodies in order to vote for someone who allowed and helped their murder to happen.

Trump won by almost 3 million popular votes. If everyone who stayed home because of the genocide in Gaza voted for Harris, she still would not have won.

Media has focused on those voters, black and latino voters, brown voters, etc. Why have they not focused on the fact that a majority of white males and a majority of white men voted for Trump? When they know he is actively eroding their rights?

The ceasefire has been violated several times by Israel

Thing is, the Biden Harris administration could easily have put a stop to it at the very beginning.

Harris could have said that she was opposed to the way Biden dealt with the war.

Neither of those things happened.

Harris had almost 3 million less popular votes than Trump. If everyone single person who stayed home because of the genocide in Gaza had still voted for Harris, Trump would still have won that popular vote by a huge amount.

I’ve seen articles blaming the Gaza vote for it. I’ve seen articles saying Latinos and black people moved to trump. I’ve seen articles blaming literally everyone except the fact that the majority of white people voted for Trump.

That’s something that needs to be talked about. Why did a majority of white men and a majority of white women vote for Trump?

Why were the democrats so establishment oriented that they have, since 2016, refused to run any single candidate who appeals to the people?

Biden won in 2020 because of how badly Trump managed Covid. People did not vote for him because they thought he was a great candidate, they voted for him because Trump royally fucked up.

Democrats are owned by the same billionaires and lobbyists that control the Republicans. If that entire system is not broken up, there won’t be any change whatsoever.

Democrats could easily have gotten more votes if they campaigned on what the regular person was asking for, but they didn’t. They spent all their time campaigning with other right wing people. The fault lies at their door for losing this election. And since trump has come in, they have not even had a unified opposition to him - most votes have had some Democrats siding with the Republicans for confirmations, etc.

If people spend the next 4 years saying see you should have voted for kamala instead of addressing the root causes of the issue, all that’s going to happen is that within the next 4 to 8 years there won’t be another election.

The windows in the US has shifted so far to the right its not even funny. The democrats themselves would be considered a centre right party at best in most of western Europe.

How have I failed to acknowledge that? I said genocide there vs genocide here. Seems to be an acknowledgement

However by your own logic, you have not said you don’t support genocide.

So you are ok with genocide then?

Getting mad at people for not being willing to condone a genocide is a really wild take to me.

If you’re saying that genocide over there is okay so that genocide over here doesn’t happen as quickly then I don’t really know how to argue that.

We got to this point because the Democrats themselves have been toothless for much of the last 25 years, and prop up the same system that the Republicans are fast tracking even more. The dems did not lose this election just because of the Gaza vote, they lost it because they wouldn’t listen to or support the regular people on the street. Dems had the chance to enshrine things into law - they controlled senate and house for the first two years of Biden. They did not codify any protections for trans rights or abortion rights, then used both as a fundraising event.

Over 50% of white men and women voted for Trump this time around.

So instead of getting mad at people who could not conscientiously condone a genocide, why not get mad and dismantle a system wherein a few billionaires get to buy the entire world and commit genocides on a massive scale? The US has been bombing half the world for almost its entire history. That doesn’t change because Republicans are in power or Democrats are in power.

The current system is between ultra rich and everyone else. If everyone else keeps shitting on each other that won’t change.

Extra genocide? It’s the same amount of genocide…

Yeah i want them to actually put up a fight not just roll over and let trump tickle their bellies.

But nah we will just get 4 more years of them saying “see we aren’t as bad as that” even though they did fuck all when they had power except launch a genocide

Yeah cuz dems really did a good job of holding down grocery prices and stopping price gouging

Fucking stop grandstanding and actually do something useful.

Do you think this wouldn’t happen if Kamala was president? Because I seem to recall an entire genocide they could have halted a year ago but chose not to.

Are you seriously arguing that slow genocide is better than quick genocide?

No no no you’ve got this wrong

If the dnc, whose constituents are elected by the people and who are supposed to exert the will of the people, decide that they do not care about the will of the people, they will find that the people do not care about them.

It is quite literally their job to carry out what their voters want. If they don’t, they lose. That’s the main premise of voting. They didn’t, they lost.

And everyone was screaming at them what they wanted

Biden expanded drilling He expanded the border wall He used trumps immigration policies He broke strikes and sided with corporations He committed genocide He did not halt price gouging He stopped testing for covid He did not help the common man

He did everything, in short, that the Republicans wanted to.

What if people are implying that democrats should have just idk not committed genocide?

Why is Israel America’s most important ally in the region?

Is it because they’re a colonial outpost?

A racist apartheid country is not who I want to be a close ally of my country.

Wow they don’t exist but we gotta shit on them because we lost the election…

This is the same as Republicans saying immigrants will take your jobs and that they’re lazy and stupid at the same time