The u.s. has a huge presence in South Korea and has repeatedly threatened north Korea, remember trumps “fire and fury” comment.

Gonna need a source on that tunnels claim, I can see them sending experts to help them build them for a fee, because they have no money, but I don’t think they’re going to finance anything, because again they have no money.

many of israels neighbors would “drive the jews into the sea” if they ever got the chance

Maybe in the 60s and 70s but every one of israels neighbors, except Saudi Arabia, have normalized relations. Saudi Arabia has no intention of attacking Israel and risking there relationship with the west, nukes or no nukes. Syria just got invaded by them and all there new islamist government has given was a light denouncement. If this were the hay day of Israel hate they wouldve called for a jihad to clear out the jews, times change.

The largest actor on their borders seeking their destruction is hezbollah, and they’ve proven they can’t even defend south Lebanon, much less march on tel Aviv.

Also Israel has shown repeatedly that it can defend itself fine against its neighbors without nukes, even if all there neighbors team up to attack them.

And north koreas nuke program deters it’s hostile neighbor from trying to roll through it.

A lot of countries face threats, that doesnt mean we should give them nukes.

This is the same state that brought us dirty soda, i.e. take some soda and add even more syrups and cream. Try and convince me this isn’t some grand conspiracy by a shadowy cabal of dentists.

To be fair, he probably would’ve said the same thing about boycotting apartheid south Africa. That’s what I initially thought this quote was from, thanks op for linking the source.

Only spouses. The right to fuck your wife is something even imprisonment can’t take away.

He already ignored a court order when he “deported” some Venezuelans to this gulag mega-prison. Whose to say he won’t do the same next time around?

He’s term limited, so he can’t run in the 2026 gubernatorial election. I guess he thinks the next step is the presidency so he’s taking the buddy up to the conservatives strategy that worked so well for Harris…

Republicans were at -3 pre 2016 and they’ve ratcheting up to -10 pretty quickly. If you have a good charismatic leader that the base falls for you can drag the rest of the party along to the edges of the Overton window pretty quickly.

It looks like a lot of these are people mostly on YouTube so they will be passively listening to whatever auto-play picks for them next.

The main audience for these isn’t the boomer conservative listening to talk radio on his way home from work. These are younger men listening to it in the background while they play video games. Hell they have asmongold on here and from what I can remember he was just a WoW streamer a couple years ago.

According to the department of homeland security he “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization” which isn’t a charge, and also encompasses any activism for Palestinians. Hamas wants doctors in gaza to heal people, so I guess ICE can now dissappear anyone working for doctors without borders.

She signed a separate letter that was less scathing and left out criticism of Israel.

a lot of them

3 signed that separate letter, AOC, a state assembly member and a ny city council member, probably because it left out criticism of Israel and they’re in New York, not because it was put out quickly.

The article mentions others like AOC who have separetely called out this blatant violation of free speech, but the point still stands, the vast majority of democrats are silent on this and that is horrible.

Remember to write your congress person about this if you live in the u.s. I think this is a border line issue that if we make enough if a stink they’ll join the banwagon.

Cool now that we’re not optimizing for the cheapest goods and services possible can we raise the minimum wage

Trump: …

Pass the pro act and expand unions to raise wages

Trump: …

Raise working and regulatory standards

Trump: …

Stop using the cheapest most environmentally harmful energy sources

Trump: …

So if they lose “the bad guys” (russia, china and the u.s.) are going to team up and take over Europe? Does Russia get it all or do they split it with the americans? Does China get a slice?

Japan didn’t team up with Germany because of China, they did it in opposition to the soviets, Germany didn’t care about China, because it’s on the opposite side of the world. Just like China doesn’t care about Europe and ukraine. Yeah they’ll sell russia weapons and tech but they aren’t giving it out as aid.

The u.s. is not allied with russia and doesn’t hate nato as much as them. One wing of the political class wants more defense spending from allied countries. Trump hasn’t shown any intention of leaving nato, much less switching sides and joining russia against them. Even if he wanted to he’d be bumping against a defense establishment that has made nato the core of there strategy for the past half century.

The u.s. is still sending weapons to ukraine as military aid. Even if trump got his way we’d still be sending weapons, it’s just the Ukrainians would have to buy them, putting the u.s. in the same position to ukraine as China is to russia. So if China is supporting russia in that case, then the u.s. would still be supporting ukraine.

Peace between the great powers is the norm in the nuclear age. This combined with globalization makes it so going to war between powers more trouble than it’s worth.

You seem to view international politics as an axis of evil bad guys and an alliance of good guys keeping them in check. That was really only somewhat the case in ww2. International politics is about a set of powers, each with there own spheres of influence and varied and at times conflicting interests trying to pursue those interests.

The u.s. has no interest in helping russia conquer europe, neither does China. Both have a major interest in keeping russia weak and keeping the European economy functional as they are a large trading partner.

So you think sending people back into a warzone they tried to escape because they didnt want to go to war is a bad thing, so then the policy of not allowing men to leave is also bad, or that even desertion is valid. If you think this comparison is invalid or that the people who escaped early have more of a right to leave then the people trying to escape now please explain. Otherwise by your own definition what ukraine is doing is cruel, it can be cruelty in support of a grand cause, but it’s still cruel.

I agree conscription is the reason ukraine is able to stay in this war. I disagree that them losing will mean russia will march on nato and cause ww3. Even if we take nukes out of the picture, Russia can barely beat the literal poorest country in Europe, how are they going to take on the rest of europe. Even if the u.s. doesnt help, the EU has 3 times the population of russia and 10 times the gdp. Putin knows this and isn’t going to try, he may go for the Baltics in 10 years after his military has recovered, but there’s no way he’s making it passed the bug river in the forseeable future.

Either way back to the main point, if you think the stakes are so high and that Ukrainian bodies are the only thing defending civilization from barbarism, wouldn’t you want more of those bodies in Ukraine? Wouldn’t this order help the cause of preventing ww3?

Did you read my reply?

fuck russia for starting this war

How am I blaming ukraine?

I’m pointing out a contradiction in your support for refugee rights and mandatory conscription. Instead of addressing that contradiction you seem to want to focus on russia and pretend I’m an fsb plant.

I’m not defending russia here, putin is horrible and without him none of this would happen. Now that we agree on that explain to me how your in favor of mandatory conscription and refugee rights.

The khmer rouge wouldnt have happened without u.s. meddling and bombing in Cambodia, that doesnt mean we cant criticize the horrible things they did in retaliation. Just because there’s a greater cause of something doesn’t mean we can’t debate the decisions made by those effected.

If zelensky comes out tomorrow and says this is a great move by trump because ukraine needs the manpower are you going to change your position?

I wonder what the Ukrainian people want.

Well some want to leave, but the government isn’t allowing them to.

Why is it evil for the u.s. to send people back to a war zone but not for ukraine to keep people in a war zone?

And before you go for the whataboutism I know russia is doing it too and that’s fucked up. Fuck russia for starting this war but that doesn’t resolve the contradiction of supporting refugee rights and mandatory conscription.

And 0.7m people working. Ukraine is suffering a labor shortage because of the war. Unless these are old or infirm people, people tend to produce more with there labor then they take out in government services. This is one of the reasons immigration is a good thing and why this is a bad move for the u.s.