I loved them, I had the Z flagships for a few years. Their naming convention absolutely sucks but given camera is a priority for me they are top of the list but they are a little overpriced to be honest.

I am looking at getting a Sony Xperia Z 1 V second hand, still a grand though

The bloat! It used to be apps but now it is baked in with knox, samsung services, ugh

I have been thinking about getting a S24 Ultra purrly for its AI less flagship position with stylus but I cannot pull the trigger on a samsung device.