We are going to ‘quip’ ourselves to death.

The only thing that moves any needle is reductive gotchas and snappy one liners.

I don’t particularly care about what your position is, was just commenting on your debate technique.

I get your sentiment, but I think this is a bit of a straw man.

Their argument isn’t that dealerships are small businesses, but that your position also affects small businesses.

The United States operates on what is called a common law system.

Generally rulings about what can and can’t be done are decided with court cases and upheld with precedent.

This is a fundamental aspect of how the system works, if any one person doesn’t believe that laws are being enforced properly or that laws themselves are against the ideology of the country, they have the right and the ability to challenge it.

It’s not really relevant to Elon musk in particular, anyone, including regular people can and have challenged existing case law to change (or create) both federal and state rulings.

you already need another way to prove you are a citizen in order to get a passport.

So you can just use that proof to register to vote, this is already how it works. This proposal literally solves nothing, it would only prevent people from voting who happen to forget the document day of and wouldn’t stop anyone who is voting fraudulently anyway ( a birth certificate is significantly easier to forge than a passport and the 95 year old lady with coke bottle classes checking you in at the polls won’t know any better anyway)

Making it harder to get a passport won’t mean much unless they also make it harder to register to vote, at which point, you don’t need this proposal or to make it more difficult to get the passport.

You may not be aware, but Nazis (both traditional and the neo variant) love dog whistles.

Obscure and hidden symbolism is core to their ideologies.

Nazis (and most hate groups in general) love doing things that are just innocent enough, but with a wink or a nudge, demonstrate clear intention.

It’s quite easy to not do a nazi salute and when public speaking, politicians (and people who practice their public speaking skills in general) have traditionally been coached on what features may be construed as, just look at the traditional ‘non-threatening’ two finger point.

Finally, I don’t think it really matters what it technically was or wasn’t, what matters is perception and reception.

Edit: I want to add some concrete examples of nazi dog whistling and symbolism.

Historically the numbers 88 have been used by neo Nazis to represent HH (8th letter of the alphabet) as a disguised way to say ‘heil Hitler’

The numbers on their own don’t mean anything, but given additional context, behaviors, or related ideals, then an additional meaning can be found.

This is often used as an intentional way to inform sympathizers to your position that you are on their side (for example a group at a political gathering) without overtly communicating your position to those opposed.

Another example is skinheads (not sharps) wearing and lacing their boots in a certain way with specific color laces.

Hitler himself was immensely into the occult and found hidden symbolism to be very powerful, it’s part of why he repurposed so much religious iconography.

So if auto pens mean that the document isn’t valid, does that mean the same thing for DocuSign, or other e signatures?

Does this mean that billions of contracts and documents signed this way are null and void?

So you just didn’t read my comment where I addressed the fact that I am not claiming you didn’t vote, and instead you want to sling shit?

I get the feeling that you don’t want to have a conversation, you just want to yell. I get it, but I won’t participate any longer.

No, if you vote for Democrats, and they win, you are saying you voted for Democrats, this is simpler than you are making it.

Not voting (when eligible and able) just means you are apathetic to the outcome.

Saying ‘democrats bad’ isn’t some gotcha response to this concept. Voting for someone who goes against their constituent, is a bad person, or otherwise isn’t what you expected is not the same thing as not voting at all, nor is voting for someone with a slim chance of winning or voting for someone that the general population disagrees with. All of those are actions taken to have some stake in the process and they are conscious decisions to support a specific person or group.

When you don’t vote, you implicitly support the winner, because by definition, you chose not to support anyone else, that’s just how the concept of voluntary voting works, it has nothing to do with the politics at play.

I wasn’t saying you personally didn’t vote, I was speaking colloquially, using ‘you’ to refer to the subject of the discussion (a person who didn’t vote).

It’s not what they said.

By not voting, you are complicit with whomever ends up on the White House, that could be someone you like (and obviously it is for probably a lot of people who didn’t vote) but assuming you were eligible and able, by not voting, the statement you effectively make is ‘I am ok with any option’

Anyone with money isn’t buying at all, they are shorting

Like… for what?

Marketing.

737s are barely bigger than this and not jumbo jets, they are narrow bodies.

737s are also kind of funny to pick since they are kind of notoriously small (this was one of the causes for the max crashes, Boeing needed to lengthen the nose gear and move the engines significantly higher on the wing in order to fit them, a normal 737NG with CFM56 engines, the bottom of the engine is about 2 feet off the ground only).

CRJs are smaller, but they are still commercial jets that fit tons of people.

How is the doctor going to provide any legitimate care that the new technology of the world brings if there is no one to generate the power or source the complex and fragile medications and tools.

Do you think doctors will be administrating epidurals and doing c sections when the works ends? Hell, modern doctors only really work because of an entire industry of health care professionals that support them.

A doctor without pharmacology, engineering, clean rooms, manufacturing facilities, etc. is just a guy who can do first aid (and that’s assuming they worked and studied in a field that would deal with immediate trauma scenarios). Doctors have benefits because they can capitalize on the support system that is international health care.

I have more confidence that an engineer could figure out how to repair, assemble, and operate an MRI machine than a doctor. I also have more confidence in the care that an EMT would provide if I’m lying bleeding.

90 percent of doctors are just dudes who mis diagnose women and minorities and spend most of their time writing prescriptions for tylenol.

When it comes down to what is actually necessary, I think most doctors are not, so if we are ranking professions based on their importance, I would rank the jobs that even enable doctors to do what they do higher.

Also, not to be morbid, but humanity fared pretty well up until now, and for most of the few hundred thousand years we have been around, we handled babies the same way the rest of the animal kingdom did, by just continuing to spit them out and hope for the best.

Hell, the biggest medical advances aren’t even done by doctors they are done by scientists, doctors just apply shit they read out of a book.

I wonder if doctors get elevated on these polls because people feel like it is a more unattainable skill.

I would imagine a lot of people (falsely) assume that it would be easy to plop people into power plants to keep them running, but harder to replace doctors.

My completely unknowledgeable take is that if we had to pick and choose people for the post apocalypse job hunt, we would want way more mechanics and engineers than doctors. Doctors need a lot of hard to obtain stuff to do the most doctor-ey part of their jobs, and if we aren’t worried about laws and regulations, then we don’t need them for things like prescriptions.

Most of what they would be needed for in that scenario to me seems like emergency care, like first aid, which you don’t really need all the superfluous med school training for.

Meanwhile, the hydroelectric dam that the new post apocalypse group is forming at needs a lot of varied disciplines and specialties just to keep it running.