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  • I don’t understand why some in this thread are so offended when it’s noted that it’s not a Filibuster, because it’s not blocking a vote. It doesn’t matter what we call it. He’s doing this to get some attention to certain issues, and it’s working. In many ways, it’s better that he does it when no critical vote is pending, because he can’t be accused of obstructionism.

    People need to understand that, as the minority party in the Senate, all Democrats can really do is obstruct. And Republicans are counting on that obstruction, because it makes it easier to tear shit down. If Democrats simply refuse to let anything come to the floor, Republicans will just wait until the entire government defaults, and then blame it all on Democrats.

    Democrats need to pick their battles carefully, and I think Booker did a good job here. Whether or not is actually blocks votes is besides the point.



  • The Senate does not have a time limit on any speech like other bodies do. One a Senator has the floor, they can keep talking until they yield the floor.

    A traditional Filibuster is when a Senator does this to postpone a particular vote. Since there was no vote pending, technically this doesn’t count as a Filibuster. Which means Booker can get the press coverage for doing this, without really holding up anything important.







  • The one thing we have going for us that might make a difference in the fact that the administration of elections is up to the individual states. So there is very little the President can do, on his own. Even the recent Executive Order targeting elections only threatened to stop Federal funding. States can (and will!) fund elections on their own if they have to.

    We also have never postponed a Federal election, the date is set by Federal law and it has gone off without a hitch, even through a Civil War and all the wars and pandemics since. So he can declare “Marshall” Law all he wants, but States are free to ignore him and hold elections anyway.





  • But there is nothing that prevents him from taking a position in the line of succession.

    The Constitution left the matter of Presidential Succession up to Congress, and Congress set it up in the Presidential Succession act. That act includes clauses that say it only applied to those “eligible to be President” and not to those who have a "failure to qualify* for the office.

    So, simply putting Trump in the line of succession is not enough to get around the Constitutional bar on a third term. He would still be ineligible. There is precedent to enforce this, too: there have been a handful of cabinet secretaries over the years who were not natural-born citizens, and they were not included in the line of succession. Madeline Albright is the one I remember; she was born in Prague and was not eligible despite being Secretary of State.

    With all that said, succession is determined by Congress and I suppose they could just pass a law to do whatever they wanted. They’d have to blow up the Filibuster for it. Would they? It would surely get challenged in court but even if the Supreme Court disallowed it, would Trump listen? The Court would need to find a way to enforce it.