drthunder

One of our congresspeople (iirc) bragged about it suppressing enough votes to give the state to Trump in 2016 too.

It’s been a rough fifteen years for us. At least we’re two elections away from being like Florida instead of one, like we were for a while.

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The guys who killed Tyre Nichols wouldn’t have been arrested if people hadn’t rioted after George Floyd was killed.

City and state subs tend to be really bad, I guess because if you’re looking to influence people it’s an obvious place to start. I swore off my city subreddit after a barrage of “this is it, I’m done with the Democrats” after the local George Floyd riots knocked over some statues that were about equality. It was probably astroturfing but beyond frustrating either way.

100% agreed

Here’s my general summary of why this is an issue: the US has been denying people the right to vote since day 1. You had to own land to vote in 1788. Half the country seceded and started a civil war that killed more of our citizens than any war since, over the right to own people. The 15th amendment was passed in 1870 to make it so you can’t deny Black people the right to vote, but places made it happen anyway. They made it so you had to pass a “literacy test” with intentionally ambiguous instructions, or pay a poll tax, or one of your grandparents had to have the ability to vote (afaik, the origin of the phrase “grandfathered in”).

These were all legal until the 1960s. Lots of people here have parents who were alive before legislation was passed to end Jim Crow. Without that, the racists that be turned to the War on Drugs, because lots of places take away your right to vote if you’ve been convicted of a felony. They started passing voter ID laws and closing down DMVs in areas with lots of black people and reducing their hours. A politician in Wisconsin bragged after the 2016 election that these laws here threw the state to Trump. They’ve also started banning giving food and water to people in line to vote and throwing out mail-in votes that show up after election day.

This isn’t about election security and it never has been; voter fraud has never changed an election in the country’s history. The real election fraud is in suppressing people’s votes and fucking with voting machines (2004) and having allies in positions of power to throw the election your way (2000). There’s more than that too, but it’s a tangent.

Pretty much, yeah

A couple years ago I didn’t have a job or health insurance and the flu shot cost $37.

I thought this was called Wild and Crazy Kids my whole life, but apparently that’s another show that was on around the same time. I guess I watched both and they got mixed together. Thanks for the info!

This activated a fragment of a thought that I haven’t had in decades, wow. I’m not even sure I remember what this is from.

And their website won’t let you order anything on the Sabbath, which drives me insane. I’m not expecting anyone to be working on the weekend, but computers don’t need to take breaks!!

I don’t claim this election was in isolation but I agree with everything else you’ve said. We need people to vote for the harm reduction, and we need people to organize because our system of government is trash. Biden being in office gave us four years to organize with the usual amount of opposition instead of the federal government being ordered to go after anyone the fascists don’t like; his response to the Gaza camps last year was fucked up but if/when something like that happens again, Trump’s gonna have the military kill people.

I think this was inevitable too, it would have taken the people at the top choosing to fight fascism like the threat it is and I didn’t/don’t see that happening. I voted for Harris because it gives us breathing room, and if Trump doesn’t survive the next four years it would be harder for the fascist movement to retain its power if they didn’t have complete control of the government. At the same time I’ve been involved in activism for the last few years, because we need people to do both.

I think if you voted for Democrats you get to complain, but if you were eligible to vote and didn’t have to jump through a ton of hoops to do so you don’t get to complain. This could have been avoided.

edit: to be clear, I don’t think Democratic leadership really cares that we’ve got a dictator. But voting for them was harm reduction and too many people couldn’t be bothered, whatever the reason.

problem?

(sorry, I had to)

You don’t think the peaceful protests were backed by the threat of union violence that had been regular up until the New Deal?

The media tried so hard to make people hate Luigi in December and it didn’t work because everyone knows insurance companies murder for profit. Voting hasn’t helped, the media is owned by oligarchs, most social media is too, and if you protest you either get ignored or beaten up by the cops.

It’s not my first choice of action even now, but probably-Luigi killed a guy who was otherwise untouchable and the oligarchs flipped their shit. Abraham Lincoln’s death gimped Reconstruction, MLK’s death hurt the civil rights movement (and spurred nationwide riots causing passage of another civil rights act), Panthers leadership hurt their organization too.

We have a 40-hour work week because unions literally fought for it. I’d guess most people don’t want more violence but working through the system was pretty impossible even before fascists took complete control last month.

The worst part is that we’re rich enough as a country to have our obscene military spending and civilized healthcare and education, we just choose not to.

Coming to VHS in fall 1998!