You don’t think it’s that too big a chunk of US voters are backwards misogynists? Wish I didn’t, but I do. I’m not going to get my hopes up a third time.

I honestly don’t think it matters how great or not she is. I just don’t think America will vote for a woman yet. They prefer a rapist fashist narcissist.

Yer, Brexit is our Trump. It hurt us badly and continues to hurt us. We have a more grown up party in power now, but they dare not question Brexit as the popularists will jump on them if they do.

See from here in the UK, both women seams good enough and miles better than Trump. I think it says a lot about the US that both times they choose Trump over these clearly competent woman. The US just isn’t as socially progressive as Democratic leadership seam to think. I agree there was more than just misogynism going on, but it seams like it was a solid chunk of it.

She looks great, but is it worth risking more MAGA on America voting for a woman? A third time? They think they were radical voting for “the black man”. Voting a woman seams beyond America even if the other choice is Trump or not voting. God know what the state the world is going to be in by the time another US election is due, let alone if it’s allowed to happen and be remotely free and fair.