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Israel is not a threat to palestine if hamas or any other palestinian stop threatening the israeli. They did accepted the UN plan to coexist side by side at first, something the arab world rejected by jointly attacking israel. Now they’re begging to revert to the original plan after israel emerged victorious over them. It is not for us as outsiders to decide, but for among them to find a solution.

Are you stupid or what? The analogy meant to say that there are unintended consequences for every action. Curing cancer have unintended effect as such.

Both sides should be guaranteed safety from any threats before we can talk about peace.

Netanyahu is one person. If you think that a whole organization from top to bottom left and right are being complicit in jailing innocent civilians. You don’t truly understand the complexity of human nature.

And palestine was never a nation before 1988.

How do you kill cancer cells? By ruining your own body with strong drugs. You got weakened immune system and become sterilized (cannot produce offsprings). That’s how dangerous hamas and it’s ideology is to israel’s existence.

And we should condemn hamas for the evil things they’ve done.

Which land does israel occupies actually? I mean prior to this war. Gaza? Or the West Bank? Each have their own local authority and they conduct their own election (supposedly, but none was held for such a long time because of their own despute), they have their own constitution, a president and a prime minister. So can you tell me which part are being occupied?

How much do you see israel as a demon, that you cannot think of them as people who are trying to survive? I don’t know where you live, but what would you do if some of your neighbour keep trying to kill one of your family? Knowing that they once brought the whole neighbourhood to attack your home. Should you just let them do as they please?

As rule of war, israel should claim all the land of palestine, from the river to the sea, because they won the war. But they actually gave back gaza and the west bank to the palestinian, and let them have their own government. What more do you expect them to do?

I think you got your history messed up. The roommate has always been there and the landlord at that time intended for both of you to live side by side, but you refused, and brought your neighbours to attack your roommate but your roomate emerged victorious. Your neighbour then took part of your room before your roommate took them back. Some times later, your roommate gave it back to you, but you keep threatening to eliminate your roommate. So your roommate had no choice but to prevent you from killing them.

If you see history as it is, you’ll get a new perspective on how events unfold. Undeniably hamas is a terrorists organization who hides behind innocent civilians, and israel is exaggerated in their response, but I can see from their point of view because I see history as it is. This is a war between israel and hamas, and like any other war, unfortunately there are casualties among the civilians (which is very difficult to prevent as long as hamas hides behind them).

Okay, so how can you relate that definition with what both sides are doing? I mean from a non-bias perspective.

So you’re saying that israel doesn’t have any right to protect their own people? I think you forgot to read the fact that these “childrens” must’ve done something to be put into prison or detention, either because they did some crime against israeli or by illegally staying in israel. Do you think they’re too stupid to purposely want to be hated by the whole world by jailing innocent childrens??

Define terrorist.

So are terrorists supposed to be only of adult male?

That’s the point. You have to know when to admit that you were already defeated, so you can focus on your own nation. As an investor myself, why should I invest in a fucked up country?

I’m not being racist, it’s just that most of you fail to see the reality of the situation here. Germany and Japan know when to admit defeat. Do you really think they got the assistance straight away after the war? No, they sort themselves out first, and rebuilt their society. The fundings came much later. Germany even had to pay for the cost of the war for years. Over the course of 80 years, you think how many fundings palestine had received from muslim countries AND the west? The funding which were used to buy weapons to attack their neighbour and further radicalized their own children. Don’t forget that it was the palestine who rejected the two-state solution and the muslim countries who jointly attacked israel first. Even now some muslim country still rejects israel’s right to exist.

I was an avid supporter of palestine for decades, blindly supporting them just because we had the same religion. But now, I’m also thinking from the perspective of the israeli here. If my surrounding neighbours keep threatening my existence, will I just sit around and let them plot my demise? If they just focus on improving themselves, I wouldn’t mind with whatever they’re doing with their lives.

True, just look at Japan and Germany. They took so much devastation, yet they can rise above others because they don’t have the same mentality as these people.

I imagine if Germany or Japan had the same mentality, they wouldn’t be where they are now. A good leader would focus on the future of their own people, not bringing them into destruction.

“We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

This. Hamas leaders either have so very low IQ to not be able predict how israel would retaliate, or they just don’t care about their own people’s lives. Hamas and their terrorist goons do not deserved to be called a human.