You’re not even moving the goalposts, you’re dancing with them.

I give you pointed arguments, you ignore them, then give me unrelated nonsense.

Documentation shouldn’t have pronouns since that’s the wrong tone

What do you mean wrong tone? Pronouns are in everyday conversation, in companies’ documents and in the government’s too. I’m reiterating to you, @Possibly linux, that they’re in Linux Kernel documentation. Better call Torvalds and tell him to fix that tone. The singular they has been in use for over half a millenium, and is now used by so many people and institutions, it’d actually be easier to list those who refuse to use them.

I think the dev probably just hasn’t been exposed much to transgender people. Reacting with hate immediately doesn’t help at all.

I’ve seen folks calmly and respectfully explain to him what’s wrong, but he just doubles down. Now we say, “maybe don’t use that guy’s software,” and people like you come out of hiding to defend him. Clearly, any hate that may have been is gone—it’s just snowflakes scared of pronouns, all the way down.

Parent comment says “a user.” Reading the docs, it clearly wasn’t referring to a man, but any user, as in “the average Lemmy user interacts with many instances, and they have the option to block those they’re not interested in.”

I don’t think that’s just opinion anymore, it’s a fairly accurate analysis. Countless serious projects use pronouns and “they,” and that’s fine, but for these few specific groups they’re somehow political and a bad thing.

I’ve heard Andreas’ twitter likes were telling, before those went private, but that information’s out of reach now. That said, I’ve seen the people who frequently interact with him there, and I wouldn’t feel comfortable around them either. He seems to really like it, though. Make of that what you will.

Still, good point on the reality of “moral software use.” For all its issues, I do hope Ladybird succeeds as a new browser engine because the internet needs more of those. I’m just not touching it unless they get their shit sorted.

I think that’s a pretty cheap PR.

And?

Ideally it should be rewritten to not to use pronouns.

Why? Linux kernel docs use pronouns and they, and they’re fine. What’s so special about Klingland that they need to keep pronouns out?

The PR is low effort and feels like it was deliberately done for attention.

Have you ever seen the piles of “good first issue” tags on github? Most newcomers start with simple changes, and documentation improvements are high up in being a user’s first contribution. Do you have anything that suggests the person behind the PR had such intentions, beyond you thinking it’s low effort?

You are leaving out the part where he said he thinks that they sounds weird.

That doesn’t help. Also, his main reason remains “keep politics out of my project,” completely missing the point that his stance is also political. It’s the old “my politics aren’t political because they’re normal.”

I believe he is still open to rewriting the docs to not use pronouns at all

That’s even more political, and ridiculously so. Linux kernel docs refer to users as “they.” Should they change it? Are they bringing in unnecessary politics into the sanctity of one of the world’s greatest collaborative technical projects? Are they too fucking woke?

Are custom ROMs or bootloader unlocking an issue for the passkey ecosystem? Not something I’d seen commented on yet.

Better, I’d imagine.

“Oh, here comes a hakencruiser…”

“A hack and what?”

Versus “look at that fucking wankpanzer. Fucking wanker.” Can’t go much simpler than that.

This isn’t America.

But it is. And it’s just getting started!