Right which is why I told you about the non-profit which is the organization that’s dedicated to the open web. I feel like that’s pretty clear.

Donate to the corporation. They’re the people who work on the product.

What point do you think you’re making here?

If your concern is that the money goes to efforts for an open internet, and not too enriching any executives, then you want to donate to the non-profit, not the corporation.

I assume because either their legal department, or it sounds like maybe this new exec Varma, thought that the previous language opened them up to potential liability in some jurisdictions.

The brightline for me is when the terms actually become onerous. If you were an extreme privacy nerd you were already using a fork anyway, for the average user there’s nothing in the terms that’s threatening yet IMO.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/donate/

The Mozilla Foundation is the parent non-profit of the for-profit Mozilla Corporation.

So… Donations but more, and cost-cutting measures. That’s not a new revenue stream, unless by “asking the users for money” you mean charging for the software…

Everyone keeps saying this, but no one has an answer for why, if they’re definitely going to start selling all our data, they didn’t say that in the new terms? I’ll get upset when they actually change them to be shitty.

Cool cool, lumping “I love fascists, actually” together with “We’re clarifying our legal positions”

Where are these grants coming from? They already take in donations and it’s not nearly enough to pay the engineers. Sure I’d love it if the c-suite took a pay cut but the truth is that a modern web browser is a big enough project that it basically requires an enterprise-size team dedicated to its maintenance.

Exactly what I expected: a restatement of the terms, pointing out that they’re not onerous at all, and a link to jwz’s blog, the single person on earth with the biggest hate boner for Mozilla.

They need money and they don’t get much from donations. I’d love to hear everyone’s ideas for how they can generate enough revenue to keep the lights on without either making deals with Google or engaging in any form of advertising or data trading.

There’s absolutely a line where I would start looking elsewhere, but this ain’t it.

There are a lot of 56 year olds in the US with negative net worth. I’m not sure what gotcha you think you’re making.

Idk this isn’t much better lol… RFK still looks like he was left in the air fryer a few minutes too long.

Brother you literally cannot be pro-capitalist and be left wing.

Yeah, if you’re pathologically afraid of actual communist theory.

Motherfuckers are actually arguing that seeding a torrent isn’t “distributing” unless they can show an instance of someone downloading a book from their IP… If that flies they better overturn every fucking piracy conviction ever.