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ID: 3 panel comic:
A surprised looking person pops in to existence on a floating rock surrounded by fire, next to the devil.
The person asks “wait a second-- why’d I end up in hell??”
The devil, now taking up the entire frame, replies: “because centrism enables fascism”
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You can be on the fence about anything, but remember the devil owns the fence.
I’m not centrist because I’m on the fence, I’m centrist because I hold both leftwing and rightwing ideologies
Honest question that you dont need to answer: what are your right wing ideologies? Are they just fiscal or are they social as well?
From the rightwing side, I support private healthcare, strict immigration laws (I am an immigrant), and the lower value of human life (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life)
From the leftwing side, I support higher taxes, UBI, public education, public transit, and work camps
And you’re okay with one side openly calling for violence against others and destroying society for the benefit of a few?
you’re okay with one side openly calling for violence against others
Absolutely? Free Luigi.
destroying society for the benefit of a few
Nope, that’s not generally something I support
Yeah I don’t get why people like OP think not being an extremist means you feel nothing about any political ideology or position.
I agree with Democrats on most issues so I vote accordingly, but I’m not under the illusion that being closer to perfection most of the time means anything the DNC says or does has to be gospel, or I have to do mental gymnastics to make my views fit theirs.
At the end of the day they’re a political cabal that seeks to sustain itself with more votes than the other guy. For example, they had zero position on abortion until the 80s, when the GOP decided to politicize it. Because the GOP left the pro-choice crowd behind, the DNC scooped them up and added it to their platform. They don’t actually care about abortion, they care about votes.
Remember when CoViD-19 was new and everyone was wearing masks until Trump said Masks Bad so now the GOP has to be anti mask mandate? Note how that has nothing to do with “small government” or any other GOP principle.
Wouldnt each side accuse the other of that specifically whilst believing their own side doesn’t?
I’m guessing that’s the point of the question.
Lol, the devil? What are we, children? Do you also believe in Santa?
Eh… I envy you, if so. Truly…
Am i missing a joke or something?
When you have 2 yards separated by a fence, the fence is on one of the sides, somebody owns the fence. The saying means that by not picking sides, you still technically pick a side.
It’s a metaphor. You don’t need to “believe” in them.
It’s almost as bad as being so dug into your belief system that you would rather let fascists win then compromise.
Letting slightly less people die is not compromise, allowing any genocide is not compromise, allowing people to starve is not compromise, Bernie was our compromise and Liberals would rather watch Trump win than accept our compromise.
And so now more people will die. I fail to see how this was beneficial to anyone but the fascists.
Exactly. Extremism is the problem, not “centrists”. Lemmy has poobrain sometimes.
Its almost as if keeping the oposition divided is the point of these posts.
Centrists are not the opposition, they’re conservatives that don’t like being called conservatives.
You have to be totally brainwashed to actually believe centrists are conservatives. Maybe if you keep up that hate it might become true. Ironically you sound just as hateful as actual conservatives. Just because I don’t agree with all progressive politics doesn’t make me a conservative. That’s literally centrist. If that offends you, that’s a you issue
The reason many people think centrists are just conservatives in disguise, is because the “centrists” most people see online aren’t actually centrists. They’re only slightly left of the extreme right, and think there’s a middle-ground compromise somewhere between “we want all these people dead” and “nobody should die.”
I think that just shows lack of imagination. I may be a centrist: want a free palestinian state, support the ukranian government, and belive that renewables are not sustainable economically, and be against imigration (I am european, these are not necessarily my opinions, just an example). You can either alienate me or convince me.
What the rest of the world considers centrist, would be radical left wing in the US.
Then it’s a you problem, not the centrists.
Naaah. That’s Libertarians. Centrists are essentially political atheists.
Absolutely agree. None of the many parties in my country have a program that resonates completely with me. That means that i have to think about which issue is the most important for my community or my family when I vote.
Inaction against injustice enables fascism. Centrists are more often inactive against injustice, but not always.
So your clever plan to get them to take action is to have the left constantly call them the reason usa is going to hell. Oh boy which side should they choose? the left who constantly hates them treats them the same as the right or the right who ignores them. Hot damn, seems left already descided they gonna be right so congrats, now you are even more of the voterbase is not going to vote with you the next round. No wonder trumps in office.
Lord.
Amazing how people don’t want to share your political views if you constantly attack them and say they’re at fault.
I’m gonna be honest this is a dumb way to view these issues. “You’re either with me or against me” just fuels an “us vs them” mentality that leads to hate and division more than anything. It shows that you’d rather label people as “the enemy” than try to understand other perspectives. Also this is the bike cuck guy. Just saying.
Most people calling themselves centrists are either so privileged that they never needed to learn about politics because they will most likely be the beneficiaries of the political system or they are so uneducated that they never even figured out how to inform themselves correctly.
Centrists usually just support the dominant force of a given system which often boils down to seeking to find compromises between left and right wing ideologies, something that doesn’t work so well when a big part of the conservative platform in most countries is the hate and discrimination of certain minorities.
In bike cuck’s defense, this is edited.
Eh point still stands, I wouldn’t use an edit of bike cuck to make a point unless the point was to satirize his original point.
Ah yes, the old “everyone right of Pol Pot is a faaaaashhhhhhh”. A surefire way to make friends and allies, and not end up as a marginalized group of kooks.
extremist lefties trying hard to lose again.
centrists aren’t about “compromise on your morals so that we can get along with the extremists”, they’re about “find the places we can agree on.” and “extremists are teamkilling fucktards”.
