• dhork@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      I wonder that, myself, but I am not at all sure how Al Gore would have handled the aftermath of 9/11. (I don’t mean the crisis itself, but rather the blame game that was sure to come afterwards).

      While Dubya was a big fat liar, we might have gotten some even worse Republican in 2004, and then Barack Obama would probably never have become President. (But it is possible he would stay in the Senate and be the current Democratic leader).

      No, the timeline shift I wonder about is what would have happened if Democrats let Bernie win in 2016, instead of being in the tank for Hillary. If Trump was never President, he would probably be in jail by now.

      • omarfw@lemmy.world
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        14 days ago

        It doesn’t matter who the president is when the country is actually controlled by wealthy oligarchs. We cannot solve that problem by voting.

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          14 days ago

          Vote with your wallets. Bring back ownership.

          Stop subscribing to dumb shit you can be getting for free. Use your brains before your wallets.

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              14 days ago

              I totally agree with what you’re saying.

              If we keep rewarding people with social praise every time they contribute to the problem, they’re going to keep contributing to the problem.

              This is what I mean by changing as a culture. We need to value different things.

      • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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        11 days ago

        I don’t think 9/11 would have been successful under him. The Clinton administration was well aware of the danger but the bush administration refused to talk to the outgoing administration. Heck the patriot act was only necessary because the bush administration was not doing its job and bringing together the information it received from various agencies. The patriot act was basically a work around against incompetent presidential administrations.