Democratic National Committee vice chair David Hogg’s plan to spend $20 million to primary older Democratic incumbents in Congress has sparked intense anger from some lawmakers.

  • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    15
    ·
    2 days ago

    I agree with the older Dems, but not for their reasons.

    No, we should not support the candidates that Hogg supports. Because Hogg is very opposed to 2A rights, and ipso facto any candidate that he supports will also be opposed to 2A rights. And if you think that we’re gonna just vote our way out of this, I’ve got some very, very bad news for you.

    Primary the old fucks with young leftists (hopefully ones that actually understand economics and tax policy)? Absolutely! Primary them with ones that ideologically aligned with Hogg? No.

    • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      2 days ago

      Once they’re primaried, people can vote for whoever is the better candidate.

      • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 hours ago

        I’m really tired of voting for better candidates that are in favor of reproductive rights, and LGBTQ+ rights, that want religion out of politics, that support genuinely free speech, and then also want to eliminate 2A rights. We’re already seeing what 75 years of libs and progressives working to disarm themselves has done, and the result is that ICE agents aren’t getting gunned down in the streets when they’re kidnapping people, and the fash are free to do whatever the fuck they want with zero fear of consequences.

    • TronBronson@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      15
      ·
      2 days ago

      That was my gut instinct too, who is this kid, how did he get a vice chair position, and ya who are these young candidates and do they understand global economics, international relations, military. What roles in congressional comittees will they be qualified for. I’m tired of seeing morons overseeing nukes. Thats gotta stop.

      • Daggity@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 days ago

        He survived a school shooting. I think he has good reasons for wanting gun control. Although personally I agree that citizens need to be armed against our fascist state.

        • TronBronson@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          2 days ago

          Most people are for gun control, branding yourself as anti 2A doesn’t really inspire hope that he can cross the aisle. It doesn’t have to be a toxic issue but it’s delicate. After checking the wiki he seems like he’s got some qualification. Left some room to be desired but I’ll judge the man by his work.

          • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 hours ago

            Most people are for gun control

            There’s a big problem with that.

            Right now, the majority of people in the US are in favor of deporting all undocumented immigrants. Right now, the overwhelming majority of people are opposed to transgender rights (e.g., using bathrooms that correspond to their gender, participating in sports, having access to gender-affirming care, and so on). Going back to the late 80s/early 90s, most people would not have believed that Satanists had the right to free exercise of their religion (and many people still don’t today). If you go back 75 years, the majority of the country believed that ‘separate but equal’ was entirely reasonable; sure, let those negroes have rights, but letting them live in our neighborhoods, go to our schools, get married to our women…? Absolutely not!

            This is what is referred to as “the tyranny of the majority”.

            The whole purpose of the bill of rights is that they are RIGHTS, and not intended to be something that is up for a popular vote. All gun control is intended to prevent people from exercising their right to keep and bear arms.

          • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            I don’t want people who will cross the aisle. I want people who will treat the fascists like the existential threat they are.

            • TronBronson@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 days ago

              Bro we can’t even cross the aisle to independents who voted for Clinton in 2016. Im not talking about the fascists.

              • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                24 hours ago

                I agree everyone on the left should be working together, but that’s not what “crossing the aisle” means.

                • TronBronson@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  5 hours ago

                  Well you guys can keep demonizing the whole entire republican party, and then make plans for the 78 Million trump voters and 30 million trump die hards. I still believe that there is a breaking point where republican congress people can be convinced by their local populations to do the right thing and impeach trump and purge MAGA from government. We only need to focus on a couple dozen districts. We don’t need to organize 30 million protestors, we need to organize about 10 million in the right districts. I don’t care if the people carry them out of office by force, but i me protesting in a democratic district does nothing to remove that southern congressman who’s in violation of his oath.

                  Crossing the aisle means getting biparsan votes to do the right thing and govern with integrity.