The administration could try removing American citizens if it identifies a pathway it can claim to be legal.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Tuesday that President Donald Trump is exploring legal pathways to “deport” U.S. citizens to El Salvador, where the administration has already arranged to house deported immigrants in a prison known for its human rights abuses.

  • Archangel@lemm.ee
    6·
    2 days ago

    I love how they just casually admit that they’re “exploring ways” to break the law.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      261·
      3 days ago

      TBH its not very obvious. Immigration officials around the world probably still view the US as a democracy. If an American were to apply for political asylum in, say, the EU, for example, it would likely get rejected.

      We need something very concrete, like if 2026 elections get cancelled or martial law declared, then they would actually take asylum applications seriously.

      • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world
        91·
        3 days ago

        Maybe for trans people they would get asylum, since many countries have issued travel warnings to trans people from outside the US about traveling to the US.

        • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          2 days ago

          I’ve read some comments from trans people that because blue states exist, they aren’t considered in danger when it comes to asylum.

          • andros_rex@lemmy.world
            4·
            2 days ago

            Pretty sure Canada has been using that as reason for denials. Most of the orgs I’ve looked at don’t help trans people in the US for that reason too.

            I’ll take blue state gladly, but even that’s a difficult prospect. The economics of being a despised minority which it is legal to fire, evict, (or DV lol) are very difficult - I would probably be homeless if I wasn’t very fucking good at math.

            But also - anti trans movements and fascism in general are on the rise globally. There aren’t quite that many safe places to run to.

            One aspect of being a gender/sexual minority versus someone being oppressed along the aspects of race, nationality status, or religion tends to be that we don’t usually have the same kinds of familial support. If I were a POC, my family and friends would probably understand my fears, validate them, and perhaps support me. Gay and trans people are born to straight and cis parents, and it’s impossible to have to explain “yes, I am currently doing sex work because my boss looked at my drivers license and decided that I shouldn’t have a job anymore.”

            Moving to a new place requires support networks and communities that trans people don’t usually have.

          • Mallspice@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            The rest of the world doesn’t really get that unless blue states take more drastic actions, nothing can or will be done to save trans folks, and that the second the leading party changes from blue to red, all deals are now off, and this can happen every few years.

            I feel like if you are trans in the US and don’t have plans to move, you need to get ready for the worst.

        • VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          2 days ago

          Unfortunately, they’ve made getting a passport prohibitively difficult for trans folks who have already changed their gender markers so even if countries were accepting trans asylum seekers (most aren’t) getting to and across the border has excess difficulties beyond convincing another country that your life and liberty are threatened.

          Plus, by the time countries do start accepting asylum seekers it’ll be too late, boarder patrol will be detaining people before they’ll have a chance to cross.

  • makyo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    110·
    3 days ago

    So yeah if that’s the case then we need to seriously explore ways to remove him from office

    • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
      2·
      1 day ago

      Removal of Trumps entire regime should be the core demand of the protests, instead of that milquetoast “Hands off” BS

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      111·
      3 days ago

      What did the founders say?

      Something something second admendment against tyranny?

      Well, I guess somebody needs to do their patriotic duty to defend the Constitution.

      🏛💣💥🔫🇺🇸

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        Well, they didn’t say that. They did say we need to kill tyrants, but the second amendment is not part of that. It’s about defending the state, as militias were the standard military of the time, not standing professional armies like it is now.

  • chase_what_matters@lemmy.world
    165·
    3 days ago

    Don’t worry guys! He only wants to deport the worst criminals! You know, like the enemies of the people. Now, who was it that he call the enemy of the people, again…?

      • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
        61·
        2 days ago

        First they came for the students protesting the genocide and to divest from Israel… and we said FUCK THOSE PROTESTORS!

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      58·
      3 days ago

      I did not have “The Nazi’s will outsource their gulags to El Salvador” on my fascism 2025 bingo card… I need to get more creative, or possibly criminally insane.

      • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
        16·
        3 days ago

        Its only until our own black site at Guantanamo has completed their new 30,000 prisoner facility. Then we can torture and execute dissidents ourselves, outside if the view of the media and courts.

        • Infynis@midwest.socialEnglish
          41·
          3 days ago

          I mean, Cuba isn’t really that different practically from El Salvador, when it comes to offshore concentration camps

          • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            3 days ago

            Except that its ours, and that way our MAGAs get to have the fun of torturing and murdering Liberals.

      • aesthelete@lemmy.world
        9·
        3 days ago

        This generation of leadership outsources and offshores things like it’s a bodily function.

        It’s darkly hilarious that the red states won’t even get the tiny local economic boost provided by having the concentration camps in their areas.

  • the_wiz@feddit.org
    1011·
    3 days ago

    Of course he does.

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    • TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
      532·
      3 days ago

      First they came for the socialists … But the US was coming for the socialists at the time, so that part is left out at the Holocaust museum memorial.

        • dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          20·
          3 days ago

          Worse than that, he was part of a group that carved out special exemptions for their churches with Hitler. And was a raging anti-semite until his death bed iirc.

          So a traditional conservative who only saw evil when it affected him. And only insofar as HOW it affected him.

              • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
                2·
                2 days ago

                Well, his legacy is about regretting a mistake for not standing up for others even if he doesn’t like them. I don’t think that’s a legacy of doing good even if it’s a good legacy. I think he has the legacy he deserves; being known for failing to do what’s right even when others died doing so.

                • dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  2·
                  1 day ago

                  You have a very good point. Not even remotely remorseful for being motivated by blind hatred, but able to at least consider the babies of a basic ethical framework based solely on pragmatism.

        • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
          16·
          3 days ago

          Actually, first they came for physically and mentally handicapped. The clergy spoke up because they were the first to notice that the families in their church with vulnerable individuals were all receiving letters that their family member had died while getting government-mandated “treatment” in a government hospital.

          Hitler was "shocked, " and pledged to end the program. Instead, it went underground, and evolved into the Holocaust.

    • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
      9·
      3 days ago

      That’s why I’m speaking out for these political prisoners in El Salvador. If they are criminals, then kick them out, but there has to be due process. This is AMERICA, everybody gets their day in court.

        • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          I meant violent criminals, but I get your point, and agree. Especially without due process, and HitlerPig claiming to be the sole arbiter of what is the law, anyone could be deemed a terrorist at any time. My post history will certainly get me designated as a terrorist.

    • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
      14·
      3 days ago

      I got permabanned from Reddit in the February Bloodbath, after 12 years and over 900K karma. They have obviously reviewed my post history, and are aware of my radical anti-MAGA opinions. I’m on their radar, and sooner or later they’ll come knocking.

      • dickalan@lemmy.world
        3·
        3 days ago

        I got temp banned for saying awful shit to Republicans and I probably deserved it but later ones were for complete bullshit

        • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
          8·
          3 days ago

          I am a life-long Unafilliated Independent, and have been loudly and radically anti-MAGA, and anti-HitlerPig from the start. I have talked often about him going to prison, or worse (too much to ask probably, as much as he deserves it), along with all the rest of his jackals.

          I regularly post that he is the most prolific traitor in American history, worse than ALL previous American traitors COMBINED.

          Yeah, those dirty snowflakes can’t stand it when someone talks about them the way they talk about everyone else.

          • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
            3·
            3 days ago

            i think they are getting around to banning dissenting opinion, but they will eventually move on to everyone.

            • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
              2·
              2 days ago

              They have to create some vague laws that nearly anyone could run afoul of, so they can pick and choose who to oppress. Basically, we’ll all be criminals, and they can detain the ones that they hate the most.

          • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
            2·
            3 days ago

            Well said that man ! I certainly agree with all your points and have said similar things but reading between the lines I suspect I was a little less, umm, forceful about it 😁 I’ve been banned from a few subreddits but not an outright ban yet

            Yeah, those dirty snowflakes can’t stand it when someone talks about them the way they talk about everyone else.

            Absolutely true

            • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
              4·
              3 days ago

              I tried to keep it cool on Reddit, but then those Traitors would do something else evil, and I’d get worked up and start called for guillotines.

              I was also extremely supportive of Luigi, calling the CEO a Corporate Serial Killer for Profit, and encouraging any jurors to understand that since they can’t see his face in the video, they can claim reasonable doubt. Now they are banning people.just for upvoting pro-Luigi posts.

              Yeah, the MAGAs and Sociopathic Oligarchs don’t like loudmouths like me, and Reddit is now MAGA, operated by a Sociopathic Oligarch. I am pleased by their hatred for me. I love MAGA tears.

  • nuko147@lemm.eeEnglish
    27·
    3 days ago

    It is really simple. You put a swastika on your flag, blow an important empty building and you say the country is in an emergency, transfering all powers to White House.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
    282·
    3 days ago

    aw man…everyday i go like: sure them muricans cant come up and even do stupider shit today. yesterday was so stupid…seriously no chance for stupider shit.

    but then…dang…again they did it. not only the orange guy…most of them. schumer, fetterman, cruz…they all have tapped into the only infinite resource. may idiocracy prevail,right?

    • Tryenjer@lemmy.world
      11·
      3 days ago

      Look on the bright side, now they can finally get rid of the Orange felon and Muskrat by deporting them to El Salvador! There is no greater threat to US security than them. Right?

      • seejur@lemmy.worldEnglish
        171·
        3 days ago

        Tbh is pretty accurate. My only wish is we had some good equivalent term for males, because the Republican party is chock-full of male goldigging whores

        • aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee
          3·
          3 days ago

          I just don’t think this lady’s hypothetical sexual promiscuity is the main problem here you know? This shouldn’t be controversial.

          The problem is the fascism- detaining and deporting people for being the wrong color and stirring up hate against them.

          • seejur@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            From the dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whore

            3. a mercenary or unscrupulous person : a person who is willing to compromise their integrity or principles for personal gain or in pursuit of something

            I think you might be the only person who read the comment, and immediately think about the sexual meaning of this.

            What I agree with you though, it that the term is mostly applied to women, hence why I was looking for a term that can be applied easily to men such as Ted Cruz (the master whore), or McConnell. Plenty of whoring in the Republican party males.

            Its quite upsetting that when this behavior is done by males, we always try to find other slurs (sleazy etc), and when a woman do it, this one always comes out first. It should be applied equally. But that said, again, its the perfect description for what she is doing atm.

        • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
          24·
          3 days ago

          I don’t feel a need to be polite to MAGA Traitors. She IS a goldigging whore, and I stand by it. The fact there are upvotes shows that many agree.

          If you want your country back, grow up and get with the program. These jackals are evil, and deserve no respect or mercy for any reason. Direct your feminist outrage toward the people who are actively, enthusiastically trying to create an American Taliban, and returning womens’ rights to the Middle Ages, not people like me who are resisting it.

          • aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee
            2·
            3 days ago

            You can be impolite while pointing to their actual bad behavior, like the black bagging and deportation and dismantling the administrative state and whatnot. Not their supposed sexual promiscuity. Bit hard to believe how I have to keep explaining this

            • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
              11·
              2 days ago

              Or, I can do all you suggested, and ALSO dehumanize them with humiliating names. Republicans do it routinely, because it works, and under the present circumstances, the Resistance shouldn’t waste a single weapon at our disposal. Propaganda is a powerful weapon, and its one that we can, and should, wield ruthlessly. They certainly do, and they deserve to get it right back.

              You remember the Michelle Obama doctrine - When they go low, we go high? That’s what got us into this mess. I’m long tired of being nice, or polite, especially to traitors and Nazis.

              I’m trying to save your freedom, so get with the program or get out of the way.

          • dickalan@lemmy.world
            5·
            3 days ago

            Bro, what alpha male bullshit are you spouting off about, we need more sensitive people like this in positions of power, do you think what’s going on right now is working and is a good thing with society, Seriously I’m asking you a question

  • Wilco@lemm.eeEnglish
    2310·
    3 days ago

    Nah. He just got shutdown 9/9 by the Supreme court. It’s amazing that the Trump nutsucker C Thomas voted against his cult leader Trump … but there it is. Everyone gets due process.