Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advocated for the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine during a visit to West Texas on Sunday to comfort two families whose children died of the disease.

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    Oh, is he just going to pretend that he hasn’t been spearheading a crusade against vaccines for literal decades?

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    He didn’t seem to care when he got dozens of kids killed by measles in American Samoa, but now that it’s white kids in the metropole he changes his tune…

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    Most effective is to get a vaccine before being exposed to Measles ffs.

    Why do you think we give herpes vaccines to pre-teens? It’s not because we are expecting them to be sexually active, it’s because it works better before they are exposed.

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      Just a minor correction: There is no herpes vaccine. It’s the HPV vaccine you’re thinking of.

      Would be nice to get a herpes vaccine, but they’re not there yet.

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    WOT?! I thought he didn’t recommend vaccines until they were safe! Is this a John Kerry style flip-flop???

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    Hahahahahahaha have fun with that, Texas, and other antivax-friendly states. I’m out of sympathy. You shit your bed, now lie in it.

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      The problem isn’t with the idiots who voted for it though. The problem is that the children, you know the innocent ones who can’t make decisions, are the ones who get to suffer. As are the people around the idiots who have weaker immune systems, and who may have not voted for the stupid or may just be too old and/or vulnerable. I love watching the actual idiots get their comeuppance, but I hate seeing innocent people suffer for their arrogant selfishness.

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        I know. I’m still out of sympathy. They’re gonna be indoctrinated by their parents and will continue being the proximate (and yes, I know that’s not the root) cause of the problem. Sometimes the symptoms need to be addressed before the underlying issues are.

        I’m on a medication that suppresses my immune system. I know precisely what the dangers are here.

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          I disagree. I’m glad people like my brother’s friend kept trying to reach me when I was still roped into the lies my parents regurgitated from the Republicans and ultra wealthy. It takes effort to get through that wall and reach the person. For me, it was pointing out all the lies I was being a mouthpiece to and checked for myself. He wasn’t mad, or condescending, and through his patience I realized all the shit my parents believed were basically all bullshit.

          As for this comment, I get the sentiment behind it, but abandoning these youth as they parrot their parents’, just prove what the right says about the others like the Democrat party. I agree that a lot of their parents are long gone through propaganda and a buildup of lead in their brains, but we can get through to youth if we don’t write them off out of the gate.

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        Can I add to this.

        There’s a lot of people that aren’t able to get the vaccine who otherwise would be vaccinated.

        Immunocompromised, allergy to MMR, chemo, steroids and other meds. The list goes on. These people are now in danger of suffering from hearing loss, brain damage, going blind, lung damage, learning disabilities seizures…and death.

        All because Tinfoil Totin Tammy wants to be a Facebook Pharma Fighter but wound up putting the “no” in immunology” instead.

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            Same. Almost died from MMR vaccine as a child. I live in a blue state so I’m not terribly worried, but I may become a test case in avoiding death from this shit before too long. Hope they get it under control and you had your wife never have to experience measles.

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        Yeah, that’s literally how evolution works!

        The morons’ kids don’t live to reproduce, otherwise idiocracy reigns.

        In the past the dangerous morons sent their kids to die in war, and the people who stayed behind were the ones who were more peaceful, that’s how civilization happened.

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          That’s not how evolution works. You’re glossing over the whole “nature vs nurture” debate. Antivax stances are very much nurture based, and definitely not an inheritable characteristic. There may be a slight bias due to intelligence, but there is no shortage of stupid people who are just as willing to vaccinate their kids as smart people.

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          In the past the dangerous morons sent their kids to die in war, and the people who stayed behind were the ones who were more peaceful

          Historically, the number of people who have been offered a choice about whether or not their children would participate in a war is vanishingly small compared to those who have not.

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    Ah now that shit might get really serious really quick you’re changing your stance? Huh Bobby? I must say I’m a little surprise. You didnt do that the last time you did this.

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          I doubt that the threat of suing the government would make him change; after all, it won’t be paid out of his pocket. But if the families were being inundated by offers of attorneys to represent them in a civil suit against RFK Jr himself…

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        It takes awhile to get used to enacting policy that rapidly and publicly kills children.

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            And that’s why i take Fuckitol. Two pills in the morning, followed by a gallon of bathtub gin, and you’ll sleep like a baby.

            Did climate change just causet the fourteenth tornado this week to eat your last pickup? Fuckitol. Little Jimmy, your last of a brood of 17 just got gunned down in his pre-k Starbucks job? Fuckitol. Slow creep of fascism destroying civilization? Fuckitol.

            Tell your doctor Fuckitol is right for you!

            some side effects include sudden spleen rupture, children born with heads of golden retrievers, the condition known as “hotdog fingers,” hearing the voices of the Broadway show Cats from midnight to 6am daily. Don’t take Fuckitol of you are or may become pregnant, are bipedal, are carbon based or require oxygen at any point during your life cycle.

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    Did anyone check what the greatest intellectual Joe Rogan thinks of his change of mind?

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    IIRC, RFK’s stances on health issues were mostly based on a conspiracy theory that the institutions he now leads were deliberately burying studies and mass amounts of data. If that were true, he’d obviously be crowing about it at every opportunity.

    Instead, he found out that his conspiracy theories are bullshit, and that he’s now beholden to Trump and MAGA fascism. He’s going to accidentally say something against the narrative from time-to-time. I’m sure Trump or Elon or whoever is in charge will make him do something humiliating to atone for it.

    Don’t get me wrong, though. I’m not defending RFK, Jr. it’s extremely sad that the apple fell so very far from the tree.

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      it’s extremely sad that the apple fell so very far from the tree.

      It really is, man… Had RFK not been killed, the US could have turned out so much differently. He was on his way to becoming president and would likely have been the most progressive since FDR.

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      Shut up.

      Your whole argument relies on:

      1. Him being able to read

      2. Him bothering to read

      3. Him understanding medical research

      4. Him believing it’s not all just part of the conspiracy

      The chances of all that happening are lower than the chances of winning all the numbers in powerball.

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        I mean he is a lawyer, who fought for the environment for decades. You dont become a successful lawyer by reading tweets, you need to actually read and put effort. He is not like most of trump’s cabinet, even though he is a conspiracy theorist and a flawed human(though with the upbringing he had, i cant imagine any human coming out as normal).

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        Yelling at his underlings and then getting a PowerPoint about it are probably closer to the real situation

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      This is an argument I have with friends, water is not wet, it makes things wet. It’s why firefighters add things like dish soap when they need “wet water.”

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        You are correct. There is even such a thing as dry water. I was first going to put the sky is blue, but similar arguments can be made there.

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        The water on the other water makes the other water wet, and vice versa

        Coming at it from a colloquial definition and not a chemist’s definition, though. And I prefer the colloquial definition of “wet”.

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          Are fish in the sea wet? Or are things wet only when they have some water on them but not all of the water? So then do fish get wet the moment you take them out of the water?

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    Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advocated for the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine during a visit to West Texas on Sunday to comfort two families whose children died of the disease.

    Driving the news: Both children in Gaines County were not vaccinated when they died of measles, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services.

    Maybe they were too young yet? Somehow I doubt it.

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      They were not. Even if they were, typically, mmr is pretty standard for the parents and anyone else who will be coming into contact with a child too young. Because this is the result otherwise

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    The worm in gnawing on his brain must have given him a temporary reprieve. Or perhaps there’s a more reasonable explanation to Bear Roadkill-Devouring, Whale Guy suddenly changing stance.

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      Those released from nurgles love tend to hate what they become. Im sure grandpa nurgle will embrace him soon enough.